On 23/06/09 at 14:34 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Julien BLACHE wrote: > > > That said, NM is a pain for the applicants *and* the AMs from what > > I've witnessed recently. There's certainly room for improvements in > > the process, but it doesn't look like FD is open to much changes in > > the way NM works today (again, from what I've witnessed recently). > > The NM process should neither be pain for the NM nor for the AM. If it is I'm > happy to hear the facts why it is pain, instead of useless babbling.
It is a pain because: - once you are experienced enough to start the NM process, you still have several months to wait before you get an AM, because the AM work is boring, so only people who are willing to dedicate a lot of time to Debian are doing it on a regular basis. - once you get an AM, a (possibly long) period where the AM and the applicant wait on each other alternatively starts (frustrating for both of them) - you have to answer >50 questions about Debian, spending hours doing that instead of doing real work on Debian - after you are done with the questions, you still have to wait a very long time before FD and DAM have both reviewed your application, and keyring-maint and DSA have gave you credentials. - the order in which applicants are processed looks unfair from the outside. For example, Sebastian Harl was AM-approved on 11/05, and got his account on 27/05. Asheesh Loria was AM-approved and FD-approved on 10/01, and is still waiting for DAM to review his report. - the process is generally useless (nothing produced out of it) and unfair towards people uncomfortable with writing long texts in english. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: lu...@nussbaum.fr GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org