On Wed, 03 Nov 2010, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > A lot of people that I know of rather not bother with registering at > yet another wiki, creating yet another account and figuring out yet > another wiki syntax that is different everywhere around. That's a lot of > loops to jump through, compared to send a single mail, formatless, with > the information on the talk.
My take is that most people giving a Debian talk already have used the Debian wiki, but I can be wrong of course. And there's no syntax problem, this page is a list, you just have to copy/paste an existing list item and you change some strings. > > I believe the wiki page is the way to improve the situation that is > > sustainable on the long term. If the current approach was working, we > > would not have this discussion. > > We would not have this discussion if you would have gotten in contact > *before* you started the page. Sorry, that argument is totally > ridiculous. Starting something externally yourself and claiming that > current state isn't working because *you* didn't even try to do a single > contact approach is making me laugh. Madly. This discussion is ridiculous. Even if I contacted you before creating the wiki page it would not change the fact that the page on the website has not been working for years. And really creating a wiki page is not a big deal. It can be removed as easily as it has been added if the discussion concludes that the way forward is to have everything on the website (which I doubt, I like the intermediary approach suggested by Javier). Also consider that this discussion will be seen by people I invited to start contributing to Debian to what should be a small task and instead they see how quickly people get upset in Debian and why it's best to do nothing if you don't want to be flamed for it. :-( > From the very first paragraph of the page: > > "If a talk is missing, please get in touch with the [events people] > including all details." > > If you didn't even get that far I fear others won't go any much further > on the wiki page neither. Wording improvements very welcome, as is a > discussion on wether this should be changed to debian-www or wether the > events people are willing to keep maintaining these parts. Suggestion: <h2>Submit a talk</h2> If you want to submit a new talk, or if you know of a missing talk, please mail [email protected] with required information (title, date, language of the presentation, name of the speaker, URL of the slides). If the talk is not available online, please include it as an attachment. <h2>List of talks</h2> ... > Thanks for following the general Debian approach of non-communication. Thanks for entertaining the fact that contributing to Debian requires to cope with flames. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer ◈ [Flattr=20693] Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
