On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:01 PM Olav Vitters <o...@vitters.nl> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi via > desktop-devel-list wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 18:30, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 19:24 +0200, Alberto Salvia Novella via desktop- > > > devel-list wrote: > > > > https://youtu.be/XXXX > > > > > > How is this person still allowed to post on d-d-l? > > > > > > > Yes, can we please enable some moderation? Not only this stuff is obnoxious > > trolling, but people are replying to it. I dontyreally want this stuff in > > my inbox. > > Mailing lists suck IMO, especially mailman2 where you need to remember a > password and in case you forgot you'll need to ask a sysadmin to make a > new password for every moderator. Mailman3 would fix this, but super > slow development pace last time I checked. Ideally it would be a more > free for all.
As a moderator, I for one would really enjoy having less mail to deal wiht and having to constantly check what the password is. So speeding up moving to mailman 3 would be awesome. > > I've set the moderation bit on Mr. Novella but do think asking for > moderation is overlooking that if you follow various other GNOME > discussion methods you'll find a way lower signal to noise ratio > (many useless comments per hour). > Thank you. Regarding the rest of the thread. I think it's important to note that the meme has already been established since GNOME 2. Any of us could write a completely lucid post about any topic and entities like OMG!Ubuntu will turn it into a discussion that creates clickbait because they know that any subject that says "GNOME removes X" will almost certainly create hysteria and drama. For Tobias's post (which I reviewed before he posted) is a good example of how anybody posting on Planet especially a designer speaks for the entire project. I had two posts removed on /r/linux that tried to troll the crowd. Luckily moderators on /r/linux see the problem and are very quick to react when I complain. The solution is either to specifically to add a disclaimer "I don't speak for GNOME, this is my opinion" or to make the post and control the messaging directly using social media to make sure that the conversation stays away from controversy. But I fear it might be a losing battle journalists and bloggers know that people love to hate on GNOME simply because we are the default desktop on a number of large popular distros and perceived as the head of the pack. They take advantage of this by engineering freakouts. You can bet that with this, the popular podcasts will want to discuss this in this. I can see the progression already. :-) When we sprout out about themes and what not, users hear that we are going to do it for all of Linux because we are perceived to be the dominant platform. I don't want to tell people want they should or not post. But if you have posts that could be construed as controversial please let the engagement team know. I think one thing we will need to do as part of defensive engagement is to make sure that we put those disclaimer out there to protect ourselves. It'll still come out as "GNOME Designer wants to remove themes, draws funny shapes to distract us". But we need to slog through it. Cheers, sri _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list