On Thu, 12.08.10 13:19, Mike McGrath (mmcgr...@redhat.com) wrote:

> Since 2006 I counted 18 slips (I think one or two of those may just be a
> single slip listed twice).  Lets not yell, lets not flame war, lets not
> point fingers.  How can we fix this?  It's clearly not one group or one
> individual or we'd just go talk to them.  This is a collective failure.
> 
> Since 2006 we've slipped at least 16-18 weeks by my count. That's more
> than half of a full release cycle.

While I side with mclasen here and believe that it is a strength of
Fedora that we take the liberty to let cycles slip rather then
compromise quality, I want to mention one thing: on opensuse the "base"
system has a different schedule then the rest of the OS. i.e. the
kernel, gcc, glibc and the low-level tools freeze first, while
everything else may be hacked on a couple of weeks more. Maybe that's
something to adopt for Fedora as well?

Lennart

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