On Mon, 2023-02-13 at 15:09 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > > I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a
> > > complete
> > > set.
> > 
> > I think trying to track down 11 to 16 years of creeping bloat now
> > is pretty
> > much a lost cause, but one thing I notice:
> > 
> > > The 20 largest packages on 33 is:
> > [snip]
> > > 47955205 qt5-qtwebkit
> > > 60158710 webkit2gtk3
> > [snip]
> > > 165482197 qt5-qtwebengine
> > [snip]
> > > 271515808 firefox
> > 
> > Having 4 different web engines on the Spin definitely does not
> > help.
> > qt5-qtwebengine is the one that logically should be there, the
> > others are
> > bloat.
> > 
> > Of these, Firefox is the largest and even overall the second
> > largest package
> > on the Spin (and that does not even include the size of the
> > separate
> > firefox-langpacks package that should be added to the Firefox
> > size). It is
> > entirely unnecessary on the KDE Spin because we already have
> > Falkon:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1920298
> > 
> > webkit2gtk3 was probably dragged in by the Anaconda → Yelp →
> > WebKitGTK
> > dependency chain. I blame Anaconda for that dependency bloat.
> > 
> > (Of course, the Anaconda web UI will make the situation even worse
> > there, in
> > that one of the above will become required by Anaconda to even just
> > display
> > its UI. I think switching to Calamares should be seriously
> > considered at
> > least for the KDE Spin.)
> > 
> > As for qt5-qtwebkit, I am not sure what dragged this in on F33. We
> > have been
> > trying to get rid of QtWebKit uses. I do not know yet what dragged
> > this in
> > on F33 and whether that has been fixed since.
> > 
> 
> FYI, if the GTK-based Anaconda UI goes away, the KDE variants
> probably
> ship a thin QtWebEngine wrapper or use Firefox instead for the
> web-based UI. No reason to depend on WebKitGTK for this.
Yes, that should be eventually possible - as long as PatternFly renders
correctly in the Web engine, it should be usable to show the Web UI
locally.

Its not like there would be much sense to target a single web engine,
given that the Web UI will support remote access and users can run
various browsers on their end.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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