On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 06:32:17PM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 02.07.24 um 4:44 PM schrieb Michael Catanzaro: > >On Tue, Jul 2 2024 at 04:05:11 PM +02:00:00, Ralf Corsépius > ><rc040...@freenet.de> wrote: > >>Is this the same cheat as with Fedora's "installation ids" and Firefox's > >>"phone home" features? > >> > >>This stuff is activated by default, which means at the point a user > >>deactivates them, he already is "collected". > > > >This metrics system will be really disabled until it is enabled. > > > >This only works because the dnf installation counting metrics are > >enabled by default, though. > > IMO, this and firefox's behavior needs to be changed, ASAP. Their > behavior is intolerable. > > >Without the dnf metrics to compare to, we wouldn't be able to know > >how many users agree to enable metrics collection unless we send > >one metrics event to indicate that metrics are being turned off. > >This is going to be a pretty imperfect comparison, but it will > >have to suffice because I figured an "I don't want to enable > >metrics" metric would not be well-received. > > My point is: Any "metrics", which makes individuals identifiable > must be strictly optional. One way to make this possible would be to > make the packages implementing this strictly optional.
And to make this point clearer, in many countries this isn't just a "nice to have", it's the law that it should work this way. Rich. > Ralf > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-builder quickly builds VMs from scratch http://libguestfs.org/virt-builder.1.html -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
