On Mon, 20 May 2013 15:35:16 -0700, Brad Roberts <bra...@puremagic.com>
wrote:
On 5/20/13 3:08 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Monday, 20 May 2013 at 22:04:06 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
everyone has their own unique idea and where they disagree with each
other.
I don't even agree with myself!
I've been trying to find a good point in this thread to inject my basic
thoughts on the subject. This is probably the best place (and it's not
directly specifically at you Adam but rather the topic).
I think it's a pretty huge fallacy to even consider that there can be
one true standardized gui toolkit. As evidence, just look at the sheer
number of them that exist right now. If you could pick a top 10 list,
and I think even that would be hard, there's not a clearly ahead of the
others champion. There's just too many different philosophies and
approaches to the problem with too many competing goals.
The "ideal GUI" is something that I believe can't be defined, much less
exist.
As to re-invent vs wrap.. just consider the number of man years poured
into your favorite gui toolkits that already exist, and then consider
repeating that cost. Aren't there a number of other projects, todo's,
bug fixes, etc that would benefit from even a fraction of that sort of
investment?
My 2 cents,
Brad
Brad, normally I'd agree with you because I am lazy. I hate reinventing,
occasionally I spend more time trying to not reinvent than it would've
taken to reinvent.
However, are we really reinventing? Yes, on a broad level it's yet another
GUI toolkit. But the goal is WPF, not native. And to date the closest
thing I've found is QtD, and that requires you fit the Qt ideology, it's
not D native. But more to the point Qt is just a shadow of WPF. They are
starting to work towards it but they've got a long way to go. D offers
inherent advantages that can pretty dramatically speed up the process. We
are really creating a markup based UI toolkit in native D. I don't think
that exists. It'll can become a showcase for D and has the potential to be
used outside of D. Because of that, I don't think it's really reinvention,
we're using existing ideas and applying them to D.
--
Adam Wilson
IRC: LightBender
Project Coordinator
The Horizon Project
http://www.thehorizonproject.org/
