On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 19:23:26 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 18:30:24 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote:
Of course this is exactly true and it drives me mad too, but
you can't just jettison it in favour of a better architecture.
Why not? This is exactly what _should_ be done.
Same reason you can't just stick your head in the sand and
pretend the entire existing body of C and C++ code doesn't exist.
It sucks, but them's the breaks.
I think the reason these efforts have failed so far is because
NaCl was still stuck using the existing web stack for the GUI,
NaCl failed because it required a plugin, and did so in a way
that made it exclusive to one browser vendor. It's like Java
only worse. Or that thrice-be-damned Flash.
But if you're just going to avoid the old web stack altogether
and try to deploy your canvas/WebGL/assembly native app
everywhere using the web browser as a trojan horse, presumably
just to get through security or evade sysadmins more easily,
you have to question what the point of making it a "web app"
even is.
The point is it runs in a browser. Do you need a more compelling
feature than the ability to run unchanged anywhere there's a
browser (basically everywhere)? I mean, I too think most of this
"web technology" is trash and really wish the lingua fraca of the
Internet wasn't awful-- I would love for text to be foremost and
for progressive enhancement to fall back to a normal web site
when I visit with elinks.
But realistically? This is a damn sight better than any of the
other attempts so far because it's just a new feature in the JS
VM. If it means we can lower code in a proper language to
something a browser can run at something resembling the speed of
an ordinary scripting language, it'll be a win already.
And this new stuff isn't integrated, I believe canvas doesn't
even support hyperlinks. How is that not broken already?
Look, I don't fundamentally disagree that this all sucks but
dude, chill. Here, go play some Oregon Trail:
https://archive.org/details/msdos_Oregon_Trail_The_1990 ;)
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/paths.html
SVG has animation, input handling, and an audio API(!) and you
take issue with paths? Weeeeeak. :P
-Wyatt
