Hello,

Dan Halloran of ICANN replied about that WHOIS question that came up a
while ago, and gave permission to post his reply. P.O. Boxes *are ok*
according to current policy. Here is the interpretation:

> --- Dan Halloran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > George,
> > 
> > Thank you for your inquiry.  Sorry for the delay in getting back to
> 
> > you.
> > 
> > Subsections 3.3.1.7 and 3.3.1.8 of the ICANN Registrar
> Accreditation 
> > Agreement require registrars to provide the "postal address" of the
> 
> > admin and technical contact for each registration.  In this
> context, a
> > valid "P.O. Box" is definitely a valid "postal address."  (In other
> > words, if a mail carrier will deliver a letter there, then it's a
> > "postal address.")
> > 
> > I hope this is helpful.  Please let me know if I can be of any
> further
> > assistance.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Dan Halloran
> > Chief Registrar Liaison
> > ICANN
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > P.S. Thanks too for taking the time to participate in the Transfer 
> > Task Force/WLS calls this week.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: George Kirikos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 3:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: WHOIS registrant data inaccuracies followup
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > --- "wxWeb.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Saturday, May 18, 2002, 2:12:55 PM, Robert L Mathews wrote:
> > > > Domain owners should be able to feel that any information they
> > > provide
> > > > will not be released to others unless it's necessary for the
> > > operation of
> > > > the domain or for legal reasons. Period.
> > > 
> > > Why should they feel that way?
> > >
> > > They do not have that assurance when they purchase real estate.
> > All
> > > property ownership information is available publicly, without
> > > exception.  In fact, much like whois, they have to make it
> > available
> > > in bulk format (for a fee).  There are even companies who
> > specialize
> > > in storing all of the information from particular states and
> > > nationwide, and making it available for searches (including
> > searching
> > > for all property owned by a particular name).
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > Privacy is not just a right, it is a responsibility as well.  If
> > > registrants are concerned about personal privacy, then, like in 
> > > personal property ownership, they can go to lengths to protect
> > their
> > > privacy.   For a domain name, an agency service like the one Hugh
> > 
> > I agree. I've cc'd Dan Halloran of ICANN, as I'd be curious to know
> 
> > how ICANN interpets "Postal Address" in the context of their
> advisory 
> > at:
> > 
> > http://www.icann.org/announcements/advisory-10may02.htm
> > 
> > If reading that announcement, one takes the section:
> > 
> > "and is responsible for providing its own full contact information
> and
> > for providing and updating accurate technical and administrative
> > contact
> > information adequate to facilitate timely resolution of any
> problems
> > that arise in connection with the Registered Name"
> > 
> > it is consistent with my own thoughts on the subject, previously 
> > expressed at:
> > 
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00399.html
> > 
> > that a necessary (and perhaps sufficient) amount of disclosure is
> that
> > there be enough information available to legally serve someone with
> a
> > process (i.e. "timely resolution" might be consistent with the
> > premise
> > of being able to be legally served a process).
> > 
> > Here's a hypothetical example of an admin contact:
> > 
> >     Services, Elephant  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     PO Box 12345
> >     Beverly Hills, CA 90210-12345
> >     US
> >     (415) 555-1234  <<-- assume this is a real number
> > 
> > Is a P.O. Box Number, with no physical address considered a valid 
> > postal address given the aims and objectives of the public WHOIS, 
> > either by ICANN or the various bills floating around the U.S. 
> > Congress?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that a P.O. Box Number can be 
> > "served" a legal process, at least not in a timely manner. The mail
> 
> > may or may not arrive at the target person, if they pick up their
> mail
> > from
> > the P.O. Box. However, a process server couldn't verify that via
> > personal service, etc. To that extent, the goal of "timely
> > resolution"
> > is not met. This might be a case where ICANN should make its
> advisory
> > more clear, as to what exactly constitutes a valid Postal Address
> to
> > help law enforcement, consumers,  and other legitimate users of the
> > WHOIS information.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > George Kirikos
> > http://www.kirikos.com/



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