Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote:
>Can anybody think of a case where the current on/off state of a device
isn't immediately obvious?

A few years ago I had a computer that had a push button power switch, with
no indication on the switch as to the device state. It was quite tower
computer that sat on the floor. Every couple weeks, one of the guys would
turn off the monitor while it was running a long process and I'd come up and
push the power button to turn it on. ...oops. It took three times before I
learned to check the monitor every time.

 The issue with onscreen toggle buttons is whether it represents its 'state'
or the 'action' to be taken.

Most 'normal' non-toggle buttons display the action that occur when pressed.
In a dialog you have 'OK' and 'Cancel'. This is usually clear unless you
have text that creates a double negative. Toggles, on the other hand, though
not universally, typically show the state. They're not alone - radio buttons
and check boxes show state as well. Unfortunately, there are many cases
where designers have displayed action instead of state, or more often I
think the indication is ambiguous.

One of the worst examples I can think of was in an older Treo active call
screen. In the row of toggle buttons along the bottom of the active call
screen, some indicated state while others showed the possible action. Along
side of these was also a normal button which didn't toggle and it showed its
action, but had the same visual style as the toggles in the row. How much
more confusing could it be?

Conversely, I think the iPhone gives an excellent example of toggle buttons.
These use  3 indications to confirm to the user what it means: 1) display of
text of the state, 2) a virtual slider from left to right, like a physical
power button, as others have mentinoed and 3) the use of color, but not
green and red - these use a hilite color and dim state which is magic for
me.

I'm not sold on green:red. Red could still indicate having power. In fact I
have a charger that glows red when it has power and green when charging. My
son kept thinking it was the reverse. Green was power and red charging. (but
technically it's a 3 state button so this example is cheating)

/Kam

On 10/13/07, Kam Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:09:19, pauric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > "Technological progress positively sucks some times. I'm sure the
> > glowing screens are touted as a "feature", too."
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> > Go over to your stationary area. Do a blank (black) photocopy on to a
> > transparent sheet.  Stick the sheet on to your alarm clock.
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