Great clarification Chris. I guess the larger point was that without an MFA... an MA doesn't put you in that position. And the trend towards the PhD is growing. Most people I know have gone the route of design history or design education.

Mark


On Jun 22, 2008, at 8:23 PM, Christine Boese wrote:

Generally, while MFAs can be considered for full professorship and tenure, it is not commonly awarded without a clear national reputation on par with public gallery exhibitions, BIG awards or grants (think MacArthur genius fellows), or, in the case of writing MFAs and others related to that, one or more well-received books.

It's a tough case to make in most departments. The professionally- focused journalism and radio-TV programs have an agreement with most university administrators to give tenure to people with just master's degrees, but generally, that is for people who have been quite high up at well-respected places (editor level, like at Wall St Journal, or major metro dailies one step under that).

On the other hand, there is a list of journalism programs who had that kind of agreement with the university administration, only to have that pulled out from under them a few years later with a president/chancellor change, as some new ambitious administrator comes in and demands that all departments start counting PhDs and nothing but. I know lots of people who have been blindsided by this happening.

Chris

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 8:06 PM, mark schraad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The great thing about an MFA is that it is still considered a terminal degree in design. Meaning, that is is the most you can get in design. Yes, I know there are few PhD's, but they are far from the norm at this point in time. The upshot here is that you can, if on faculty, be considered for a full professorship and tenure, if that is an option that speaks to you.

I seriously considered that route, but I kind of knew that two masters in three years was my limit... and wanted to get back to full time work (thought I loved the learning and open ended nature of academia).

Mark



On Jun 22, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Jeff Howard wrote:

Hi Mat,

The only MFA in Interaction Design I know of is at the University of
Washington. Carnegie Mellon has a Masters in Interaction Design but
it's not an MFA, it's an M.Des.

// jeff



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