Hi Tom,

Twayne wrote:
HI All,

First let me preface this by saying I think OO.o is an outstanding accomplishment and a fantastic job well done for the most part. In addition, having once managed R&D software and hardware offices I am reasonably aware of the very large problems of developing applications. There; hope that's enough sucking up to get you to read this<g>:

I am at a make or break point with my attempt to use OOo 2.3.1 for my purposes. Either I figure out some work-arounds or I'll have to relegate OOo back to a "future" date for serious use. After searching many old posts and asking a few questions here and on one of the other groups, I feel I have a reasonable head-around for using OOo. However, I am unable to get around some problems that prevent me from continuing to use it.

Example: I have one file (.doc from Word) that I've imported, pasted, and otherwise played with to get it into OOo in a manageable form. It's about 33Meg in size, 60 pages, and contains 101 embedded (not linked) JPEG color images ranging in size from 1/16 page to 1/4 page , sized prior to insertion into the document. There are only 4 Word styles, no sections, in this particular document. I create the .odt, close the document, Reboot just for grins, and then open the .odt again. Nothing I try has succeeded in an import/paste/paste special, paste without last para mark, etc., of the .doc into an OOo .odt file in any usable manner.

The largest problem is image positioning. Images beyond the first about 8 pages are nearly all misaligned, misplaced, and their anchors have moved to incorrect pargraphs. If the images were in a table, they are now outside the table and cannot be moved back into the table without deleting and re-creating it. Images will overlap each other and even overlap text, but the text either shows on top of the image, or the image isn't opaque, I'm not sure which. Touching the image wiht the mouse corrects that and text moves away from the image as expected, but the image may still be as much as an entire page removed from its correct, anchored position. As you can imagien, correcting this image positioning is a real problem since they don't misalign in any orderly or sequential manner, and the tables that held the images have just been completely abandoned.

There are also other spacing problems, but they could be relegated to the annoyance category if it weren't for the image mistreatment. Spaces between paragraphs are not consistant and several other things happen that means it would require a page by page treatment to correct because "replace" operations can not properly function on them. For whatever reason, spacing problems all seem to relate to the vertical dimension; there are no horizontal issues except with images; I see no pattern to their movement.

*IS* there any specific way around these problems? The images moving in particular? If not, I think I'll have to relegate OOo to the shelf again and continue using Office for my work for the foreseeable future at least. As much as I want to support OOo, I won't be able to since I just plain won't have the time to gain the experience and background needed to become a useful volunteer who can contribute to it.

Thanks for reading and if this pisses anyone off, I'm sorry, because I don't mean it to do that. I just have a decision to make and must do so soon as possible since I've gotten essentially no where with being able to make a full and reliable transition to OO.o.


It is very hard to give a general solution to your problems without knowning the concrete text documents, which causes the trouble.

Can you provide sample text documents demonstrating your problems?
The best would be to provide such text documents is to provide these text document as attachments to a defect submitted via IssueZilla - the bug tracking system for OpenOffice.org.

Regards, Oliver.

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