On 5/11/2015 10:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Scott Kitterman writes:

  > Actually, the idea behind MARID was to come up with a single
  > solution

Is there something we can learn from MARID?  I don't see it in the
context of the current discussion, as MARID had little to say about
third parties (it treated them as first parties, and handled third
party issues by suggesting "certification registries"), and explicitly
disclaimed authentication of authorship claims.

MARID main trust was with SPF and CEP (Micrsoft's XML version of SPF renamed to SenderID when it was changed to a SPF syntax), but the MARID group was open to other proposals to compete with the SPF solution. Those other proposals included:

    - Domainkeys that included a simple always/sometimes sign policy,
    - DKIM, a better Domainkeys with extended third party policies,
    - CSV/DNA, an SMTP EHLO level Reputation Method.

These were the first introductions of the idea for Signature TRUST MODEL and the chain of trust which eventually became the main focus in the DKIM-WG working group.

But the main focus in MARID was with the SPF idea and there was outputs from MARID -- a direction to complete the four RFCs and to treat them as experiments:

    RFC4405   SUBMITTER SMTP Service Extension
    RFC4406   Sender ID: Authenticating E-Mail
    RFC4407   Purported Responsible Address (PRA)
    RFC4408   Sender Policy Framework (SPF)


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HLS


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