At 08:12 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote:

>So don't get your nose all out of joint Nate.
>Simple question about the reliability of D-Star as I am still one of 
>those that are not convinced that Digital is the way to go,
>eg...Cell phones are digital and now we have radio that is digital.
>Soon there will be television that will not be analog anymore.

Yes, progress.  While analog has its strengths (especially with 
regards to using the ears/brain to reconstruct weak/noisy signals), 
digital is generally more versatile.

>Sure digital takes up less band space but still there is nothing 
>like an analog signal because with analog you get no R2D2.
>And yes I do want to pick on D-Star a bit because it is an issue 
>with which mode do I choose to save a life.

True, analog copes with some conditions better than D-STAR.  Mobile 
multipath for one.

>I have a D-Star radio, as a matter of fact I have 2, I also had a Dongle.
>When my Icom is connected to an 8db gain antenna I still hear R2D2. 
>Just as much as when I had the 91AD. Sort of get tired of saying, "What?"
>At the very least with the analog signal you can catch some of the 
>conversation.

I found D-STAR to generally work well.  Only time I've had trouble is 
when trying to access the repeater while mobile and with a relatively 
weak signal.  Analog under those conditions results in a choppy but 
mostly readable signal.

>Ah the infamous Dongle, was more trouble then it was worth. Got a 
>fast connection, but it kept timing out.
>Tried it on 2 or 3 puters and poop....Not a means of reliability 
>although when I was in Hawaii it worked quite well.
>But the local D-Star repeater on G1 couldn't make it through the 
>gateway to the G2 that was at my home area.
>Rendered the 91AD useless for D-Star to talk home.

I have a Dongle, only problem I've seen is a sound issue that causes 
the Dongle to disconnect occasionally.  This appears to be an issue 
with how the software handles certain error conditions.  In other 
words, it's a software bug could be improved over time.


>So the question is reliablity. Like I said, I am on the fence but 
>have found it necessary to have a D-Star radio because it is another 
>mode that could be used.
>But what do I know, probably nothing at all as I am new to ham radio.

I'm of the mindset that "It's another tool, so I want to learn how I 
can best use it and integrate it into existing operations".  Also, 
I've learnt there's no point trying to force people to use/not to use 
a particular technology.  Instead, work with others and their 
choices.  For example, in the SE of the US, there seems to be a big 
push to use D-STAR for SKYWARN.  This will have an impact on our 
hurricane net operations, and I have been keeping in touch with the 
D-STAR net up there, so we work with them the next time a hurricane 
strikes the US.  I have a Dongle, and I am encouraging others NCOs to 
get D-STAR capability.  In the long term, I hope to be able to 
directly plug our network into the D-STAR one (initially, voice only, 
later, be able to access the data stream as well) for traffic 
handling when traffic levels are low.

D-STAR isn't perfect, but it's here and it's being used, so we should 
familiarise ourselves with it.  Besides, it's fun to play with a new mode. :)

73 de VK3JED
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