In my experience with third party warehouses (which isn't the same as a F), the
warehouse may duplicate or have its
VAN duplicate the 856 and a copy goes to both the C and the M. In other cases, the
856 is only sent to the M who in
turn forwards a copy to the C ususally based on the N104. Doesn't the M get billed by
the F as part of this process?
If they don't know who the M is, how do the F bill for the C's ship?
Jim Divoky
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneway, Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:24 PM
Subject: Third party transactions
> Greetings all,
> I was hoping someone could help me out (again).
>
> I need help figuring out how to populate the Originator/Recipient fields in
> my target application header. In our world, the Originator and Recipient are
> the participants in a business transaction and are expected to be (usually)
> the owners of the business transaction (810, 850, 856, etc...).
>
> For EDI docs, we are mapping the sender/receiver values to our Originator
> and Recipient fields in the target application. Specifically, we are using
> sender and receiver values from the ISA05, ISA06, ISA07, ISA08.
>
> The issue is that the business entities associated with a given business
> transaction within an EDI doc may not be the same as the sender/recipient
> pair for that EDI doc.
> For Example:
>
> A freight Forwarder(F) sends an 856 to a Customer(C) due to a drop ship
> scenario where the product from the Manufacturer(M) is shipped directly by
> the freight Forwarder(F) to the Customer(C). The business entities
> associated with the SHIPMENT (in our world) are the Manufacturer(M) and the
> Customer(C). The Originator and Recipient of the 856 are the Forwarder(F)
> and the Customer(C). The Manufacturer(M) never sees the 856, yet is held
> responsible for it's contents by the Customer(C).
>
> Based on the above example, how does the Manufacturer(M) normally get the
> 856? I've suggested that we have the Forwarder(F) forward (no pun intended)
> the 856 to us (M) as well, but they weren't too happy about that. They said
> that it would be difficult for them to identify the Manufacturer(M) because
> their translator is sending the 856 from themselves(F) to the end
> Customer(C). They don't have a way to identify which Manufacturer(M) to
> forward a copy of the 856 to.
>
> Another third party situation I'm looking at deals with the banking
> industry, and I'm sure there's many more. I'd appreciate hearing what
> similar situations you've run into and possible solutions you ingeniously
> designed.
>
> Thanks, and have a salubrious day...
> Kirk Kenneway
>
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