Cloud technology has a long way too go. It sounds great on paper because the purpose is to consolidate IT staffs into an outsourcing model. It is a very tricky idea especially when it pertains to B2B technologies. It will be very tough for these huge enterprise companies to rip out their current infrastructures and get adopted to these cloud technologies when they're not proven. I have been in EDI for 10 years and haven't seen this quick of a change. I remember when AS2 was introduced and they said the VANS would be dead or when the so called UCCNET came out and it would be the end of EDI. It would all be about XML. I have dealt with many enterprise companies regarding their evaluations of managed services AKA the cloud and some of these companies are struggling to get off the mainframe. It took one particular company twelve year to finally decide to phase off the mainframe. Most companies still want to control their own infrastructure and technologies on premise.
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 14:37:48 -0800 Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Cloud platforms & EDI But "cloud" sounds so much nicer..... Leah ________________________________ From: Ralph Potter <[email protected]> To: Roger Curtis <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 4:30:17 PM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Cloud platforms & EDI We were doing this twenty years ago; at the time we called it "In VAN translation" and paid for it a monthly basis plus usage (trashed that at internal expense but no less net cost). What is different in this model (except in the Value Added Network model you also had the Value Added part like people who knew what they were doing with you partners)? ________________________________ From: Roger Curtis <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 2:30:32 PM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Cloud platforms & EDI Hi Susan, We've been investigating Cloud EDI SaaS for some customers. Basically I think it comes down to this: With traditional EDI the customer needs to purchase the EDI software and pay annual maintenance own/operate server(s) to run the software on do the data mapping (and/or operation) or outsource these functions. Bottom line - greater initial outlay With Cloud EDI No software is purchased - they pay a monthly and/or transaction fee No server required The mapping may be done by the EDI hosting company. Operation and data management is done by the hosting company. Little initial outlay - annual or 3 yr commitment may be required. In the cases we looked at the break-even point is 3 years operation of the cloud EDI platform costs about the same as the first year owned option. Liaison Technologies has their LENS and other cloud platform that works very well especially for large volume users. Roger _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Stecklair Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EDI-L] Cloud platforms & EDI Hi All - I've been asked to met with someone on the following topic: "I'm trying to understand how the emergence of Cloud platforms that provide execution elasticity and global scale will or will not change the state and progress in areas like exchanges and supplier connectivity (more generally B-to-B systems)." I've trained on Salesforce.com, but their Order Management is handled by partners and seems very primitive from an EDI perspective - at least when I last looked at it. Do any of you have any experience with Cloud platforms as part of EDI (B2B) integration? I'm certain familiar with TaaS. Thanks, Susan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
