Great, thanks, John!
Scott From: John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk> Sent: Monday, 4 March 2019 09:05 PM To: Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... Maybe my explanation was a bit too brief. CENELEC specifies the dow, but the Commission can assert a different date - the docoposs - which is what matters for establishing conformity. If a standard has not been notified in the OJ, and therefore does not support regulation, the dow is just an instruction to national standards committees to withdraw any conflicting national standard. Manufacturers can, perhaps unwisely, continue to apply a standard beyond the dow date in the superseding standard. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-03-04 12:51, Scott Xe wrote: Hi John, Thanks for your clarification! A lot of people will take the dow in EN standard as the deadline, especially the standard has not been put in OJEU or conflicts with OJEU. EN standard is EN Norm. What is wrong to take this approach? Is there any official guidance to clarify it? Regards, Scott From: John Woodgate <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk> <j...@woodjohn.uk> Sent: Friday, 1 March 2019 12:43 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... Strictly speaking, transition periods are not specified in CENELEC standards, Instead, the mythical animal Docopocoss is specified (Date Of Cessation Of Presumption Of Conformity Of the Superseded Standard) is specified. Even more strictly, CENELEC specifies that, but the Commission can overrule it. IEC standards sometimes include a recommended transition period in the Foreword (which no-one ever reads), but it's purely advisory. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-02-28 13:35, Matthew Wilson wrote: Thank you John, that is most helpful to know that transition periods run from the date of publication of the new standard. Don't know why I didn't actually have concrete knowledge of that but it makes sense. Matthew Wilson, Technical Director, GB Electronics (UK) Ltd. From: John Woodgate <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk> <j...@woodjohn.uk> Sent: 27 February 2019 17:36 To: Matthew Wilson <mailto:matthew.wil...@gbelectronics.com> <matthew.wil...@gbelectronics.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... The site you mention has the answer: In setting the necessary technical documentation requirements, EN IEC 63000 is almost identical to the text of EN 50581, even if any wording specific to the EU RoHS Directive has been removed: it aims at addressing different substance regulations worldwide while ensuring the same approach from manufacturers everywhere. The normative references of EN 50581:2012 were updated in EN IEC 63000 in order to reflect the latest international development of analytical test methods and material declaration. EN 50581:2012 is a harmonised standard meaning that its application gives presumption of conformity with the requirements of the RoHS Directive. Considering that a large number of products on market are referring to it in their Declaration of Conformity, a transition period of 5 years (60 months) has been granted for manufacturers to adapt before EN IEC 63000:2018 supersedes EN 50581:2012. In practice this means that during this transition period both standards will coexist, allowing the manufacturers to smoothly migrate to EN IEC 63000:2018. Transition periods run from the date of publication of the new standard, so 50581 is presumably usable until 2023. But you would be well advised to look at the new standard well before then, maybe in 2021, in case the first edition has acquired any amendment or corrigendum. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-02-27 16:59, Matthew Wilson wrote: I see that BSI now state that EN 50581:2012 is marked as Status : Superseded, Withdrawn https://shop.bsigroup.com/ProductDetail?pid=000000000030261478 and states it is replaced by: BS EN IEC 63000:2018, Technical documentation for the assessment of electrical and electronic products with respect to the restriction of hazardous substances The harmonised list on the EU website still states 'EN 50581:2012 Technical documentation for the assessment of electrical and electronic products with respect to the restriction of hazardous substances' https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-stan dards/restriction-of-hazardous-substances_en What one should I put in a declaration of conformity to be issued this week? The product in question has been assessed for RoHS compliance using the principles and our copy of EN 50581:2012. It appears the two are probably identical according to the link below and we've just missed there's going to be a change (it's hard for SME like us to keep abreast of all the changes and that before any Brexit implications! Anyone any hints on that?) although the article talks about 60 month transition period but not actually what the actual timescale is! https://www.cencenelec.eu/news/brief_news/Pages/TN-2019-009.aspx Thanks for any pointers. 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