Simon writes:

> Yes, you can have additionnal widgets (clocks, rss, whatever, ...)
> in loadable libraries. In fact, you can build external widgets
> because you have access to all the methods for this in the Etk
> headers.

        Sure. But the questions is really more of wether the toolkits
themselves should provide a 'simple mechanism' for making these
available in a 'standard' way (as well as a repo of common such that
it might want to include).

> > If e can have nearly as many apps written in its toolkits
> > as there are now for gtk.. then I'd say that alone would be great
> > achievement!
> Actually, I see no real point in coding with Etk/Ewl an aplication
> that already exists with Gtk or Qt. It would "only" offer more
> consistency with an E desktop, and some eye-candy effects but it's

        If no 'existing' gtk/qt apps are ever written with ewl/etk,
then there never going to be any image viewer apps, any text editors,
or any of the other 20,000+ apps that exist -- you're going to have
to think real hard to make up a 'brand new' kind of app that no one
has ever done before in gtk/qt, just to make it 'worth' doing in
e's toolkits??

> quite a waste of time imho. We should try to think differently,
> because we have tools (Edje/Evas) that allow us to do things

        They aren't as known or as simple to use for building
large or common stuff, as more 'standard' gui-toolkits.. they
require much more initial effort, time, etc..
        IF you do have the initiative, the time, the desire, the
creative drive.. to really want to make something "completely
different", THEN yes that would be the way to go from the start.
        For many others, it might just not be worth it and instead
opt to use more familiar tools and concepts.. especially if the
built-in theming is already quite satisfactory.

> differently. But some apps can't indeed be done really differently
> (for example, an Email client or a FTP client in Gnome/Kde/E will
> always look the same, we can't be really innovative here).

        How do you know? Sure you can, you just have to....

        The point isn't wether one can or cannot make some things
really new, better, different.. nor wether one should or should not
do it. It's letting people make those decisions themselves by
giving them the ability to have the 'best of both worlds' if they
so desire. :)

   jose.



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