On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 20:58:10 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]> said:
> On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 18:32:32 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 15:08:38 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:56:48 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]> > > > said: > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:41:11 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:49:57 +1000 David Seikel > > > > > <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:15:44 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The > > > > > > Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 00:13:18 +1000 David Seikel > > > > > > > <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 23:55:24 +1000 David Seikel > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:48:04 +1000 David Seikel > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:36:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler > > > > > > > > > > (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:00:24 +0100 Raoul Hecky > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le lundi 7 novembre 2011 04:33:10, Carsten > > > > > > > > > > > > Haitzler a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > attached. this was a sample edc that would be > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to play audio, not just single samples but > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole sequences across multiple tracks as well > > > > > > > > > > > > > as control specific channels and tracks. it > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't specify looping params yet or other > > > > > > > > > > > > > additional stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such a huge thing just to play sound in edje... Is > > > > > > > > > > > > it really necessary to have all this in edje or > > > > > > > > > > > > are you just nostalgic of the good old days of > > > > > > > > > > > > trackers?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DAMNED STRAIGHT I AM! :) i just discovered > > > > > > > > > > > milkytracker! i'm enjoying myself thoroughly! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seriously though... you CAN still just play > > > > > > > > > > > samples.. then play samples WITH volume envelopes > > > > > > > > > > > and looping (sounds as this glues sample+envelopes) > > > > > > > > > > > and then play entire sequences (a series of samples > > > > > > > > > > > played with timing), which is the basics for most > > > > > > > > > > > musical scoring, then combine these into multiple > > > > > > > > > > > track patterns and put them together into whole > > > > > > > > > > > songs if u want. it drops down to the simple and up > > > > > > > > > > > to the whole "compose a whole score" end of things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if all you ever choose to do is play samples - then > > > > > > > > > > > its largely irrelevant. reality is that if you want > > > > > > > > > > > to have complex sound effects you need to start > > > > > > > > > > > doing all of these little bits. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let me give an example. scrolling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you want to play some "wind blowing" when you first > > > > > > > > > > > start to drag > > > > > > > > > > > - this may consist of 2 or 3 channels of sound with > > > > > > > > > > > various wind samples overlayed at staggered > > > > > > > > > > > intervals to give the impression of something that > > > > > > > > > > > isn't always looping and repeating (it's a neat > > > > > > > > > > > trick you also can do with overlayed images). you > > > > > > > > > > > want this "song" to fade in then keep looping a few > > > > > > > > > > > patterns where you really are using 5 or so 5 > > > > > > > > > > > second samples to create several minutes of wind > > > > > > > > > > > sound. now when you actually MOVE your mouse (or > > > > > > > > > > > finger) you year some "tinkling" sounds that sound > > > > > > > > > > > like the small glass bells being shaken. these play > > > > > > > > > > > and fade out becoming quieter the slower your drag > > > > > > > > > > > and varying pitch depending on how high or low your > > > > > > > > > > > position is on the scroll range. you would > > > > > > > > > > > implement these with another few tacks like the > > > > > > > > > > > wind, applying modifiers for pitch and volume of > > > > > > > > > > > the play instructions. the bell sample can be 2 or > > > > > > > > > > > 3 samples like the wind to give the impression of > > > > > > > > > > > many distinct bells, just played at differing > > > > > > > > > > > speeds for pitches (you can normally go up 1 octave > > > > > > > > > > > before it sounds just odd and want to get a new > > > > > > > > > > > sampling). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm excited by that. B-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, with multisense turned on (Ubuntu 10.04, > > > > > > > > > > sndfile 1.0.21), when it gets to compiling > > > > > > > > > > elementary's edje files I get - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc -id ../../data/themes > > > > > > > > > > -fd ../../data/themes \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/themes/default.edc \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/themes/default.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > > > > > > > -id ../../data/themes -fd ../../data/themes \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/themes/default-desktop.edc \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/themes/default-desktop.edj ALSA > > > > > > > > > > player_plugin init fail Couldn't open any output > > > > > > > > > > device. ALSA player_plugin init fail > > > > > > > > > > Couldn't open any output device. > > > > > > > > > > make[3]: Leaving directory > > > > > > > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/themes' > > > > > > > > > > Making all in images make[3]: Entering directory > > > > > > > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/images' > > > > > > > > > > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[3]: > > > > > > > > > > Leaving directory > > > > > > > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/images' > > > > > > > > > > Making all in objects make[3]: Entering directory > > > > > > > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/objects' > > > > > > > > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > > > > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/test.edc \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/test.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > > > > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/multip.edc \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/multip.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > > > > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/colorpreview.edc \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/colorpreview.edj > > > > > > > > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > > > > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/cursors.edc \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/cursors.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > > > > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/font_preview.edc \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/font_preview.edj ALSA > > > > > > > > > > player_plugin init fail Couldn't open any output > > > > > > > > > > device. /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc -id ../../data/objects > > > > > > > > > > -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/postit_ent.edc \ > > > > > > > > > > <------>../../data/objects/postit_ent.edj ALSA > > > > > > > > > > player_plugin init fail Couldn't open any output > > > > > > > > > > device. ALSA player_plugin init fail Couldn't open > > > > > > > > > > any output device. ALSA player_plugin init fail > > > > > > > > > > Couldn't open any output device. > > > > > > > > > > make[3]: *** [postit_ent.edj] Segmentation fault > > > > > > > > > > make[3]: *** Deleting file `postit_ent.edj' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oops. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make -j is jumbling that up a bit. Still trying it > > > > > > > > > > out on other things in SVN. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a similar segfault in editje - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make[3]: Entering directory > > > > > > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/editje/data/templates/default' > > > > > > > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > > > > > > \ ../../../data/templates/default/default.edc \ > > > > > > > > > ../../../data/templates/default/default.edj > > > > > > > > > make[3]: *** [default.edj] Segmentation fault > > > > > > > > > make[3]: *** Deleting file `default.edj' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, second time through, elementary built fine. Might > > > > > > > > not be edje_cc doing the segfaulting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually... where do u have remix installed vs edje? i think > > > > > > > edje may be installing the remix plugins in the wrong spot > > > > > > > for remix. > > > > > > > > > > > > remix is installing in it's default of /usr/local, all of EFL > > > > > > and friends is installed in /opt/e17. > > > > > > > > > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! thats why! yes - its a problem in the > > > > > configure.ac where it installs the remix plugins in edj's > > > > > prefix, not in remix's prefix. > > > > > > > > OK, just got that segfault in the same place in elementary > > > > building as mentioned above. In total I've had it five times > > > > while compiling most of SVN many times, this is the first time it > > > > has shown up in the same place as before. In all cases there's no > > > > segfault if I just compile it all over again. Memory problem in > > > > edje_cc perhaps? > > > > > > valgrind... gdb.. you now the routine. "works for me" so need you to > > > come up with info. :) > > > > Yep, after dinner I was gonna. > > Preliminary results after a quick test, which might help while I go do > something else. Valgrind showed nothing, it would not segfault there. > Segfaulted under gdb, results attached. > > /me compiles things with symbols and tries again later. aaaaaaaaaaah crap. it's the non-threadafe libdl! -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
