On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:41:15 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:34:29 -0500 Mike Blumenkrantz <[email protected]> said: > > > On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:53:51 +0100 (CET) > > Vincent Torri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey > > > > > > I have created a paypal account, which is linked to the french > > > association bank account Enlightenment.fr [1] [2] > > > > > > I plan to add 2 boutons, one for the donations in euros, the other one in > > > USD. These buttons will go to the donate french page [2], but it is > > > necessary to have an english page. Do you think that is it sufficient to > > > add these buttons on the main page e.org, or another page ? What we can > > > do is just translating [2] and adding a link on e.org main page to that > > > page. > > > > > > ideas and remarks are welcome > > > > > > Vincent > > > > > > [1] http://enlightenment.fr/lassociation-enlightenment-francophone/ > > > [2] http://enlightenment.fr/dons/ > > it would be cool if we actually had plans for what to do with donations once > > we get them > > well the last time we did a donation drive, we used the funds to buy e1 and e2 > servers that are in OSUOSL. e2 is our primary server with e1 as hot standby > backup. e3 and e4 are in france and came thanks to free.fr i believe - so not > part of donations. we still have money left over from our original drive for > e1 and e2 as "emergency funds) i think its a few hundred $ - these are if the > hdd or something goes wrong on e1 or e2, we can pay to fix it. > > here's my take. i'm conservative when it comes to money. i borrowed money once > in my life - when i was right out of university and really needed a new car > (living in the usa - u NEED a car) as the one i had was falling apart... i > have never borrowed money since. never run out of money either, so being > conservative has kept me out of trouble. i think it's best if we are > conservative with money people give us. it's respectful of their donation, > sensible and will keep us (e.org - let's call it) out of trouble. > > in that vein - i think we need to make sure we have a rainy day fund. that > would pay for new servers or replacement parts and maintenance if something > goes wrong. we should never eat into that fund. it can just be part of the > same money pile, but the "last $X" we never touch unless it is an emergency. > it its just some hdd's and parts we need maybe $500-$1000. if its enough to > get a new server we need $1000-$3000. for for now, let's say we probably > should have a rainy day fund of $2000. everything over that... we can use for > specific purposes which i assume is the crux of your mail. > > right now, we don't have anything specific in mind, BUT we could do any of the > following: > > 1. bounties (bug, feature etc.) I've said before, and others have agreed, that we desperately need a bounty system to provide motivation for adding/fixing stuff that people want. We probably do need donation money to get that started since we need to hire some web developers anyway, and adding a GOOD bounty site is nontrivial. > 2. help equip some or as many developers (who can't afford it) with as much > specific hardware as possible (eg problems that only happen on radeon card X - > at least get 1 dev who knows the code in question in efl that machine so they > can reproduce and fix it), or get devs tablets or phones, maybe with arm cpu's > for better support. it's an idea. imo this would be one of the lower things on the list. Most of the current E developers work for companies that should provide the necessary devices. > 3. fund more services - reality is, if we do have exchange working again with > bigger and better features, we may need more storage - maybe lots of it. This goes with #1 in what I think would probably be most useful to us. We need a lot of work on the site, replacing trac, getting better user interactions (forums maybe) and marketing, things like this to help improve and promote our public image which will then bring in more donations to replace what we've spent on the improvements. > 4. help fund things like dev days in various locations (though this kind of > thing is expensive) A good idea, but I think a better focus for us would be funding developer attendance at conventions/expos to promote our stuff. We get some publicity at these now, but it's usually because developers pay out of their own pockets to show up. We can't and shouldn't rely on that. -- Mike Blumenkrantz Zentific: Doctor recommended, mother approved. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. 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