On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 00:59:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 00:58:22 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]>
> said:
> 
> > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:37:28 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > >  On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:28:39 +1000 David Seikel
> > > <[email protected]> said:
> > > 
> > > > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 18:29:52 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The
> > > > Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:14:30 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > > > > <[email protected]> said:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 2:44 AM, David Seikel
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:26:06 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut
> > > > > > > Barbieri <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 22, 2012, David Seikel wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I remember in the not too distant past I could set
> > > > > > > > > the E17 compositor to make unfocused windows
> > > > > > > > > partially see through. Did that get removed? If it's
> > > > > > > > > still there, how to turn it on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Set the color class. At least detourious can handle that
> > > > > > > > (Settings > Look > Colors)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That did not work in the main theme.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > yeah, raster forgot about colorclasses in his hurry to do
> > > > > > the dark theme. Detourious do have them.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > basically we need to change the theme:
> > > > > >  - use color classes names supported by the configuration
> > > > > > module (there is a fixed array of names in C)
> > > > > >  - use color as white (255 255 255 255);
> > > > > >  - use the color class with the actual value. it will
> > > > > > multiply the white and will become itself (red x white =
> > > > > > red)
> > > > > 
> > > > > well i gave MOSt things that i saw had color and font classes
> > > > > - i gavce them colorclasses - but i didnt define a
> > > > > colorclasses section with every entry there indeed. this is
> > > > > something i just had to put off until "later". one of those
> > > > > things that need attention in the default theme. now the
> > > > > pressure is off i'm open to the idea of streamlining the
> > > > > theme and making it as nice as is doable visually.
> > > > > 
> > > > > and yes i know - gustavo wont be happy until it looks just
> > > > > like macos-x (or maybe windows 8). :) non-solid/plain
> > > > > gradient colors seem to burn his eyes in. eg any
> > > > > bevels/highlights/shadows at all. :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > though things that are still "urgent":
> > > > > 
> > > > > icons that were not changed for release (still old ones)
> > > > > icons that were changed "in a hurry" need attention.
> > > > > module icons (in the module icon edj files)
> > > > > .directory files for enlightenment.menu and accompanying icons
> > > > > needed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > basically. :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > then yes - color/font classes i need to do nicely. as i went
> > > > > through i noticed many elements recycled font/colorclasses
> > > > > where we really should have added a new one for that use case.
> > > > > 
> > > > > after some use i notice the mixer just feels/looks
> > > > > wrong/different. cpufreq and analogue clock really look
> > > > > right/nice in the shelf. i think that recycling the outer
> > > > > circle from the cpufreq/clock just with the inner speaker
> > > > > from mixer is the way to go there. theres other things that
> > > > > could do with nicening up and improvements of course.
> > > > 
> > > > Soooo, transparent windows not working anymore then, huh?
> > > 
> > > eh? of course they work.
> > 
> > How?  That is the topic of this thread that I started.  How do I
> > turn on unfocused windows being transparent?  It used to work, I
> > can't find the knob on the compositor that I hit before that turned
> > it on.  The
> 
> there never was a knob or slider in the compositor settings - ever.
> there may have been a colorclass. transparent windows work - if the
> theme sets them up.
> 
> > thread got side tracked into colour classes, but THAT did not work,
> > and is not the "knob on the compositor config dialog" that worked
> > before.  The colour class thingy apparently only works if I use some
> > other theme than the default E17 theme.
> 
> there never was one. there was a style that may have been
> semi-transparent when unfocused - i didnt make any such styles when i
> redid the theme. all windows are solid.
> 
> > So I ask again, how do I turn it on?  "It" being that unfocused
> > windows are partially transparent.  I'll qualify that with "and
> > works with the default theme".

There definitely was some method of getting unfocused windows to be
transparent by swizzling the composite config dialog, using the old
default theme, I was using it for a long time.  Exactly how that worked,
via a colour class that just happened to be included in some style, or
something else, it used to be there.  Now it's gone.  That's the answer
to my original question...

Transparent unfocused windows are not working any more.

Yes, they can be made to work if the theme supports it, but the current
default theme no longer supports it, so it don't work out of the box.

It got removed.  To get it to work again, you'll need a different theme.

Now that I have my answer, I can relax, and hope it gets added to the
default theme at some point in the future.  B-)

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