On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:01:57 -0600 Doug Newgard <[email protected]> said:

> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:08:56 +0900
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > CC: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [E-devel] 1.9.0-beta2 pre-release
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:42:40 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]> said:
> >
> >> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:24:57 +0900 Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Simon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> On 02/22/2014 07:56 AM, David Seikel wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 06:51:13 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:49:18 -0600 Doug Newgard
> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:38:34 +0100
> >>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [E-devel] 1.9.0-beta2 pre-release
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Stefan Schmidt schrieb:
> >>>>>>>>> https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/post/view/38/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We are happy to release the second beta release for the
> >>>>>>>>> upcoming 1.9 series. This is most likely the final beta2
> >>>>>>>>> release before the release
> >>>>>>>>> happening next week. Please give it a good testing.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Download
> >>>>>>>>> LINK SHA256
> >>>>>>>>> efl-1.9.0-beta2.tar.gz
> >>>>>>>>> ff4037cc3ae45fc5f66cdec7c56de2c6892faf2981f33a89550609831ee8edd1
> >>>>>>>>> elementary-1.9.0-beta2.tar.gz
> >>>>>>>>> 4fd94bbb51793d98922b05f6cd6fc6ff703d49f2b1cef1d25a7ff2d48aa4f146
> >>>>>>>>> emotion_generic_players-1.9.0-beta2.tar.gz
> >>>>>>>>> 57e1251cbc8b4b3bc61c9b864be8ec17377749c98ba777671ff2686406006be1
> >>>>>>>>> evas_generic_loaders-1.9.0-beta2.tar.gz
> >>>>>>>>> b7199c12cabd854da9a3963c6b2be65fde123a40989de22a12f13749b4c96776
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Building and Dependencies
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you have an existing EFL or Elementary install, you may
> >>>>>>>>> wish to delete its header files and libraries before compiling
> >>>>>>>>> and installing to avoid possible conflicts during compilation.
> >>>>>>>>> If you are compiling the above, please compile them in the
> >>>>>>>>> following order:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> efl
> >>>>>>>>> elementary
> >>>>>>>>> emotion_generic_players
> >>>>>>>>> evas_generic_loaders
> >>>>>>>>>> Please refer to the respective README files in each release
> >>>>>>>>>> for a full
> >>>>>>>>> list of dependencies, explanations on configure flags and
> >>>>>>>>> other relevant information (Just scroll down to see the README
> >>>>>>>>> already displayed nicely).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> EFL
> >>>>>>>>> Elementary
> >>>>>>>>> Emotion Generic Players
> >>>>>>>>> Evas Generic Loaders
> >>>>>>>>> Recommended dependencies are for all of the above are:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> luajit (optional lua 5.1 or 5.2)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is this just recommended or a new required dependency for
> >>>>>>>> efl-1.9? configure now requires luajit for me and i dont see
> >>>>>>>> any switch to disable this additional required dependency.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thomas Sachau
> >>>>>>>> Gentoo Linux Developer
> >>>>>>> --enable-lua-old should get you 5.1/5.2 support instead of
> >>>>>>> luajit. Don't know why you would want to, but there it is.
> >>>>>> Coz the stable release of a very popular Linux distro doesn't work
> >>>>>> with EFL using luajit. It's possible other stable distro releases
> >>>>>> don't either.
> 
> Of course, EFL 1.9 won't be going into those stable releases, either. If
> you're going to update one package, updating others that that are needed
> seems reasonable. You wouldn't install the very latest Unity without updating
> any of it's necessary libs, would you?
> 
> Of course, 14.04 LTS is now in a feature freeze and seems to have 2.0.2, so
> that issue should go away as people upgrade. Debian stable won't have it
> until Jesse next year. RHEL/CentOS...who knows.
> 
> >>>>> It appears I was slightly inaccurate. Ubuntu LTS (12.04) was
> >>>>> released prior to the release of LuaJIT 2.0.0, so it only has an
> >>>>> early beta of that. This compiles with EFL fine, but I wouldn't
> >>>>> trust it. There's a PPA for more up to date LuaJIT 2.0.1 at
> >>>>> http://ppa.launchpad.net/mwild1/ppa/ubuntu/ but it wont link to
> >>>>> EFL -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> usr/bin/ld: 
> >>>>> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libluajit-5.1.a
> >>>>> (ljamalg.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `.rodata' can not be used
> >>>>> when making a shared object; recompile with
> >>>>> -fPIC
> >>>>> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libluajit-5.1.a:
> >>>>> could not read symbols: Bad value
> >>>>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> >>>>> make[4]: *** [lib/edje/libedje.la] Error 1
> >>>
> >>>> openSUSE also only supports luajit from the equivalent of a PPA, I
> >>>> guess i'll fix that sometime, if no one else uses / cares about it
> >>>> it doesn't tend to make it into the core distro.
> >>>
> >>> We have plan to rely on luajit performance in the future.
> >>
> >> I know that, it was my idea, I was planning on doing it a bit later in
> >> the year. B-)
> >>
> >>> Having proper luajit package in distribution will become an absolute
> >>> must if things go right. We still support the old lua and will for a
> >>> long time, but we really should encourage people to have a proper
> >>> luajit on their system. By putting luajit as the default choice of
> >>> our configure now, we explicitely encourage this to happen. I hope
> >>> that at least your next LTS will have a proper luajit in it, better
> >>> make sure now !
> >>
> >> I suspect that LuaJIT 2 having actually been released will do more to
> >> encourage it being used in future stable distros than anything we can
> >> do. Remember, the current stable Ubuntu was released *before* LuaJIT 2
> >> was. It wasn't possible for that version to have a stable LuaJIT 2,
> >> they didn't have a time machine.
> >
> > actually projects like efl and others *REQUIRING* luajit will do much more
> > to get it in. as long as e (and efl) are not first class citizens in the
> > ubuntu world (in terms of having package maintainers and being looked after
> > by default as releases come) then you can pretty much assume that it'll lag
> > far behind - if ever work.
> >
> > this is one of the reasons arch is pretty good. e/efl are a first class
> > citizen. scimma has been keeping up with packages as soon as we release -
> > arch
> 
> Ronald van Haren is the one keeping E/EFL up-to-date in the repos, I just
> deal with the AUR packages.

aaah still - thanks for your aur work... and also thanks ronald :)

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