You are again just wrong. Users can copy the contents of their profile from
their ~/.e directory and send it to whoever they'd like to use it.

That is all distro maintainers are doing when they distribute pre-built
profiles.

Again though - moving the widgets around on the screen is far from creating
an entirely new theme. No one is complaining about the layout of the
desktop. They dislike the dated look the default blue theme has.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Jose Gonzalez <[email protected]> wrote:

> Simon wrote:
> > On 02/22/2015 02:08 PM, Jose Gonzalez wrote:
> >
> >>      If you want to grow your user base then there's no 'easier' way
> >> than to have E support distributable shell-theming (restricted profiles
> >> if you want). It's the best way to attract the attention of new and
> devoted
> >> users and designers... those that will evangelize E for its coolness.
> >>      There is really only so much you can do with current E themes, and
> >> it's why so may are slight mods of each other... They do not really
> allow
> >> for a fully creative approach to desktop theming.
> >>
> >>
> > Most of what your talking about is already possible, and all of it is
> > possible for distro maintainers, It is possible to set and include
> > wallpapers, fdo icon themes and cursor themes from within a existing
> > profile. As a theme designer about the only thing that wasn't possible
> > in e19 was semi transparent windows but i asked nicely and it will be
> > possible with e20.
> >
> > It is possible to ship profiles, I have been doing it with openSUSE for
> > ages, it just requires a little work have a look at
> >
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/X11:Enlightenment:Factory/enlightenment-profiles-openSUSE
> > just take the profiles in the tar and put them in
> > /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/ normally i create them by logging
> > in with a test account setting up my layout then running the right, have
> > a look at
> >
> http://sleepwalker-hnd.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/e17-0174-efl-178-update-problem-at-start.html
> > yes it would be kinda nice if there was a more automated way of doing
> > that, but its not a distro issue its a core e issue, I think I talked to
> > raster about it a couple of years back and like all things its mostly
> > just time.
> >
> > If you want to know whats possible  have a look at
> >
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-548ae08770d724.09363033.jpg
> >
> >
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-548ad796dde145.72133123.jpg
> >
> > I am slowly working on that theme its about 15% done, the enlightenment
> > theme is 10's of thousands of lines of code + all the images you need to
> > do, making a theme from scratch would be atleast a man month of full
> > time work, this is one of the reasons why there are people working on
> > theme editors to make writing themes quicker and easier, I use a bunch
> > of scripts that make some of this process a little easier but its still
> > plenty of work
> >
> http://simotek.net/tech/projects/opensuse-e/darkmod-enlightenment-theme-converter/
> >
> > Cheers
> > Simon
> >
> >
>
>     From what I recall, and I admit that it's been a while, it is not
> really
> possible for a user to distribute a profile they create. Distro maintainers
> yes, but not designers/users who want to share their 'gui shell' -
> certainly
> not in a way similar to how one can share current E themes.
>     I'm well aware of what 'is possible', but it's not easy for people to
> create and share such.
>
> >>> I'd rather see more work on better/larger variety of E themes before we
> >>> work on a profile distributor. As is there are only two fully feature
> >>> complete E19 themes that are unique. Most of the rest are either
> copy+paste
> >>> jobs of the two complete themes or they are missing a lot of things
> (such
> >>> as elm components).
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Jose Gonzalez <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>      Perhaps it's really more a reflection of people 'bored' with
> >>>> the same kind of 'standard' desktops they've been seeing
> >>>> for so many years now?
> >>>>      As I've suggested before, a feature for E that would make it
> >>>> far more interesting is a 'shell-theming' capability that would be
> >>>> distributable - i.e. a module to allow people to make and distribute
> >>>> the look&feel of the desktop (things like the bg and arrangement
> >>>> of various gadgets on virtual desktops, etc).
> >>>>      Along with some new, cool gadgets (or extensions of some
> >>>> current ones, like allowing for the main menu to hold other gadgets)
> >>>> this would be a very attractive selling feature for E distributions...
> >>>> Designers and normal users can make or download all sorts of
> >>>> nice 'shell-themes' just as they now do with ordinary E themes.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> As with every Bodhi release, the trolls really come out with regards
> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Enlightenment theme. Some real gems over here ->
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/bodhi-linux-300-available-for-download.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Tom Hacohen <
> [email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 17/02/15 09:25, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> First Bodhi stable release featuring an Ubuntu 14.04 core and the
> E19
> >>>>>>> destkop.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.bodhilinux.com/2015/02/17/bodhi-linux-3-0-0-release/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm an Arch user myself, but I still love and appreciate your work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Glad to have you back. :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Tom.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >
> >
>
>
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