That is the thing bieber has it setup in a rather complex way and not
even documented that I am not going to touch things with out proper
documentation. When I had last spoken to him he said he was going to
work on documentation. 

If someone can get me any error logs or anything at the kernel level I
can see if maybe I can try and actually get this fixed in the upstream
linux kernel.

---
Regards, 

Jonathan Aquilina 

On 2017-04-07 02:08, Carsten Haitzler wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:45:26 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> said:
> 
>> There is me as well but the setup is a bit too complex for me to say
>> lets go ahead and i can start.
> 
> do you now know how it all is hooked up and works to even be able to consider
> changing it at this level?
> 
> i mean there also is the option of "starting again from scratch" but 
> regardless
> that's going to be a lot of pain as we can't lose our data (phab sql content
> and so on).
> 
>> I think if need be this is something I could potentially help and maybe
>> get sorted upstream in the kernel. 
>> 
>> Is there anything in the logs that might be of interest for me to send
>> to the kernel mailing list?
> 
> i don't know other than what i've posted before.
> 
> ---
> Regards, 
> 
> Jonathan Aquilina 
> 
> On 2017-04-06 02:16, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:44:49 -0400 Daniel McLellan
> <daniel.mclel...@gmail.com> said:
> 
> sounds like you need better hosting 
> it's a kernel bug in our own host kernel that hosts the vm's. enlightenment
> even owns the machine too. it's not a hardware or resource issue. it's a
> kernel bug in that host that doesnt seem to go away with upgrades.
> 
> so likely we should look into moving stuff into containers instead to avoid
> it. but that's a huge amount of work and only one guy knows how things are
> set up to make it work... :(
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