Thanks, Barry, for such a thorough and well-written summary of the issues
On 3/21/06 8:47 PM, "Barry Wainwright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22/3/06 01:34, "TjL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties, but am at a loss to figure out why >> that would lead someone to REMOVE content. > > A lot of history and internal politics and deep seated resentments going > back over many years. What? You thought all us MVPSs were nice people? > >> >> This was THE main source of information, especially about Sync Services (the >> part that I am in desperate need of). I don't understand why it wasn't just >> left up, even if the person responsible for it no longer wanted to be >> involved. >> >> Do the MVPs not sign any sort of agreement regarding content compiled as part >> of a group? > > The site was the brainchild of an individual (who just so happened to be an > MVP). She single-handedly wrote the site, initially compiling the articles > from posts on the public newsgroups and mailing lists. As the site grew, she > accepted articles from other people as well, but always maintained the > editorial rights. > > The confusion and bitterness arose because she hosted the site through > mvps.org. This is a domain owned by another individual (who just so happened > to be, at that time, another MVP). The domain owner makes email addresses > and supplies web hosting to any current or former MVP out of the goodness of > his heart. Diane made use of this facility to host her site. However, other > MVPs assumed that the site was a communal MVP resource, even though they had > had nothing to do with its inception. Arguments arose over editorial rights > and content management. They escalated to the point where there was an > attempt to take the site ownership and editorial rights away from Diane - > all this happened a couple of years back. > > Since then, the bitterness has simmered away in the background without the > hurts ever being properly healed. Just recently, the row flared up again and > all the old arguments were once again aired in semi-public. > > Diane decided, rightly or wrongly, that it was time to pull the plug. She > has all the content still, and may yet re-publish it if or when she can find > suitable hosting. She will not publish it back onto mvps.org as she does not > want any more confusion over who owns the site. It is Diane's site and hers > alone. It is not an MVP site, and never was despite the name and domain. > There was nothing 'official' about the site at all, it was simply the > results of an immense effort by one individual - effort that was not always > fully appreciated by others. > >> >> Has someone gone through the Google cache and seen what might be there? > > Yes, several people have. However, there are ethical and legal > considerations to republishing information that is harvested in such a > manner. If you wanted to do it for your own personal use, I guess that could > come under the terms of 'fair use', depending on what jurisdiction you come > under. Even that would be illegal in many countries. But to re-publish the > information in any form would be immoral. Even to us it as the basis for a > new site would come under the definition of plagiarism, and be ethically > repugnant to me. At least. > -- To unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> old-archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/>
