Naah, Erik the PHB[1] has minions to read headers for him...

[1] Hi Erik![2]
[2] Hi Sherry!

Les Bessant MCSE mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT Manager, Sanderson Townend & Gilbert
Acting in a personal capacity
http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Reading headers is what Tiggers do best

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 12 August 2002 15:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unsolicited Email


I think you missed Erik's <sarcasm> tags.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unsolicited Email
> 
> <snip> Nobody on this should list should read the SMTP headers.  </snip>
> Ok, so I'm not the creme de la creme but I wouldn't count myself as the
> creme de la merde either (no comments pls!) but why not look at headers?
> When our mail server was used as a spam relay I looked at them and could
> see where it was routed thru.
> And if it is legit mail, you can also see whether you or your isp has a
> problem with out bound comms, can you not?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 12 August 2002 13:33
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unsolicited Email
> 
> 
> Hey, we're not all PHBs, Erik! Some of us have to do the technical stuff
> ourselves....
> 
> <g,d&r>
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 August 2002 19:34
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unsolicited Email
> 
> 
> Nobody on this should list should read the SMTP headers.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:33 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Unsolicited Email
> >
> >
> > First, ignore the advice of reading the RFC's and headers. If an
> > individual signed up for a web email service such as Hotmail
> > or Yahoo! or
> > brain.com.pk under false pretenses then you will have to contact the
> > provider to see if they can help you track down the abuser. All the
> > headers are going to tell you is that the email message came from an
> > account on www.brain.com.pk which is pretty useless since you
> > already know
> > that. They should at least be able to disable the account for
> > you and may
> > have some information related to what computer was used to access that
> > account.
> >
> > If the user had instead used the common SMTP hack to forge a
> > From address,
> > then the RFC's and headers would come into play. But
> > depending on how they
> > did the hack, you still would probably not be able to
> > determine much if
> > they did anything to help cover their tracks.
> >
> > As you have discovered, in the world of SMTP and free email
> > services, it
> > is extremely easy to forge the From address of an email and it is
> > difficult, if not impossible to track this down if the person
> > doing it has
> > any amount of a brain what-so-ever. Tell your executives to
> > deal because
> > it is the nature of SMTP and the Internet.
> >
> > > Dear List,
> > >
> > > Today, our senior executive's received Illegal/unsolicited
> > email with =
> > > the name of one of our senior executive. His name was used
> > on free web =
> > > based email service (www.brain.com.pk). My question is how
> > can I trace =
> > > the culprit.
> > >
> > > Help in this regard is really appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks & Regards.
> >
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