When a customer wants it AND wants to pay money for it... customer is always right. :)

Customers hate when one proves them wrong.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering


Perhaps it would be better if you educated that customer on better
alternatives.
Just as an aside, during Tony Redmond's session last week he asked how many
in the audience were using clusters and I swear, a third of the people there
raised their hands. I would have thought it a lot less. 




-----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering


I prefer not to mess with Exchange clustering unless a customer insists on
having a dedicated Exchange cluster.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering


And when you deploy an Exchange cluster, that's exactly what you get!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering


No I am just preparing for the worst-case scenario.


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering


If you're basing your life around 4 identical boxes that all experience
hardware failures that close together, I suggest you switch hardware
vendors. Fast.

Keep in mind, too, that A/A/A/P means you're running Datacenter.

------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> 3 Storage Groups on each node, right?  :)
> 
> I like the idea of a/a/a/p, but that's a one trick pony. You
> better hope that the other two nodes are not going to fail soon.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> Which meant if you had 3 databases on each cluster, the other
> active node
> would fail as soon as it failed to mount one store too many.
> 
> That's why MS now pushes a/a/a/p clustering. a/a was an unmitigated 
> disaster.
> 
> (:=
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Andrey Fyodorov
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:32 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> No, according to the theory you can get more users on
> Active/Active because
> both cluster nodes are being used to do something useful. But 
> if one fails,
> the other node better be able to take on the load.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:50 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> Stay away from active/active.  Go Active/passive instead.  You can get

> more users on Active/Passive.
> 
> Denny
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Imran Iqbal
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
> 
> 
> We are currently an Exchange 5.5 site, as part of our move to Exchange

> 2000 I am considering setting up Exchange on a 2 node Active Active 
> cluster and would be interested in hearing anyone views or real world 
> experiences with similar setups.  Each server would have about 800 
> active users and would probably be connected to a SAN for the shared 
> storage.
> 
> I have heard that there were memory issues with this setup pre SP3.  I

> would like to know if there are any other problems and if it is worth 
> doing
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> 
> Imran
> 
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