I know that. That doesn't change the fact that it's a security hole that
forces a large aamount of the security hassles onto each and every server
rather than being able to focus on the network path leading to those
servers.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Holtzclaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 RPC over HTTP
> 
> 
> This feature only works with Outlook 2003.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 RPC over HTTP
> 
> 
> Well, that goes back to corporate rules - one cannot install our VPN
> client on their home machine.
> 
> Even though there is a gatekeeper in the mix, it is 
> fundamentally scary
> to encapuslate RPC point to point.
> 
> In our environment, all traffic coming off the VPN concentators goes
> through a routing segment in which we do traffic analysis/intrusion
> detection, as well as using a fairly high level of 
> authentication prior
> to accepting the VPN connection to begin with.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Lemson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 2:35 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 RPC over HTTP
> > 
> > 
> > Here's the way I look at it:
> > Imagine that employee X uses Outlook on her machine at home to get 
> > access to her mail. Her machine at home is also used by her 12 year 
> > old son, who likes to install random files found on the net,
> > including some
> > trojans.  If you make her VPN, then unless you are very 
> > clever with your
> > firewall rules (and thus hinder usefulness of your VPN), 
> when she VPNs
> > from that machine, it will now be within your corporate 
> > network and able
> > to do all kinds of attacks.  By replacing that with RPC 
> over HTTP, you
> > keep that from happening.
> > Andy's makes a very important point about the fact that no 
> RPC traffic
> > makes it past the HTTPS server until the outside user has been
> > authenticated.  So the key is making sure that you have 
> > strong passwords
> > so that the authentication that people are using from the remote
> > machines to the HTTPS server is as tight as you need.
> > 
> > David
> > This postings is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and 
> confers no 
> > rights.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 RPC over HTTP
> > 
> > Note that ISA server is actually smart about being able to
> > pass the RPC
> > necessary for Exchange and not other malformated RPC traffic if I
> > remember correctly.  And you're not opening up RPC to the 
> net, rather
> > https.  The RPC traffic originates inside your network 
> after the HTTPS
> > has been authenticated. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger 
> > Seielstad
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:29 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 RPC over HTTP
> > 
> > The single biggest benefit of RPC over HTTP is that it's a
> > single port.
> > The single biggest problem with RPC over HTTP is that it's a single,
> > well known port.
> > 
> > The archives from last month (or maybe a few back) have 
> covered this 
> > discussion, but ultimately its not a terribly secure thing.
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:24 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Exchange 2003 RPC over HTTP
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello All.
> > > 
> > > I really think it is neat that Exchange 2003 can do RPC over HTTP,
> > > however, I don't see this being very secure.  Especially with the 
> > > latest vulnerabilities i.e....Blaster...etc..
> > > 
> > > What is your opinions about this new feature.  Will anyone in the
> > > discussion use the RPC over HTTP?  If yes, how will you 
> > secure it?  If
> > 
> > > no, why?
> > > 
> > > Hoping for some opinions and comments.
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > > 
> > > Samantha Bridges
> > > 
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