In the interests of not wasting posts on Stupid, I'm going to combine my responses to four related posts, all featuring Joe the Plumber.
It's astounding the way Obama supporters have gone after him, when all he did was dare to ask Obama a question. I'd say it was even more astounding how wildly inaccurate the posts about him here have been, except that it's been clear for some time that this group of generally highly educated people and spiritual seekers don't think they really need to know what they're talking about where politics is concerned, especially when they're finding fault with the other side. ----- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 16, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > Interestingly, today "Joe Plumber" became "Jane and > > Joe Plumber". She's so damn creative. > > Supposedly this guy is actually fairly wealthy. "Supposed" by whom, you? Wrong, stupid. He made $40,000 in 2006. http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20081016/NEWS09/810160418/- 1/NEWS http://tinyurl.com/3qxbrz ----- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > Turns out Joe the Plumber is not registered to vote. Yes, he is registered to vote, sorry to disappoint. Joe the > Plumber admits he makes much less than $250k (on CBS) > so will in fact pay less taxes under Obama than under > McCain. Puerile and inane. <belly laugh> If you had paid any attention to what he said in the video, you'd know that his concern wasn't his taxes at his present salary, which is fairly low ($40K in 2006). It was that if he is eventually able to buy the plumbing business he now works for, he thinks Obama's tax plan would cost him more than McCain's. (It wouldn't unless it made over $250K in profits, which isn't likely; only 1.4 percent of small businesses do. And it would depend on how the company is set up. Obama hasn't really provided any details of how his plan would work.) ----- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > Turns out that in his state every plumber does need > a license whether they work for themselves or for a > company. Wrong. He's limited in where he can work without a license, but there are areas in which he can do so. See: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20081016/NEWS09/810160418/-1/NEWS http://tinyurl.com/3qxbrz > Sure if he takes home a large enough salary that his > taxable income is over $250K he will pay more in taxes. > I doubt that would happen. He needs to know that with > a business there will be business deductions that will > lower his company's taxes. <snicker> He knows that, Bhairitu. It's not, like, esoteric. He said explicitly to Obama that the *profits* of the company he wanted to buy might push his personal taxable income above $250K. That's unlikely with a small plumbing business, as you suggest. But he's obviously a fairly smart dude and knew what he was talking about. He just wanted to challenge Obama on the principles behind his tax plan and did a fairly good job of it, using his own situation as an example, even if it wasn't a particularly realistic one. Unfortunately, Obama was so interested in "converting" Joe personally and making an impressive YouTube video with nice sound bites for the media that he wasn't so clear about the most important point, that the vast majority of small businesses (98.6 percent) do *not* make enough profit to put their owners' income over $250K. And he didn't even succeed in "converting" Joe, who saw right through him. ----- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 16, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > According to Crooks and Liars, he was a plant > > and has connections to Keating: > > > > Joe the Plumber? More like Joe the Keating Family > > Operative > > Figures. And because it "figures," therefore you believe it, right? Turns out it's not true, sorry. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/16/133831/42/1001/632600 http://tinyurl.com/4ownld
