thx, his Guru is Norbu Rinpoche. Vaj has been on the Rinpoche's retreats, at least one.
http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_art&FileName=batjam --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" <emptybill@...> wrote: > > Vag, the TM truther ... > > >I'd much rather see the truth than fiction, as the truth is > >often better than fiction. In this case, it's downright hilarious. > > > Great thought Vag. Now tell us the truth. > > > > > > The Truth about Vag the Anti-TM'er > > Many FFL posters, particularly former TM teachers, do not believe that > Vag ever learned or practiced the TM/ TM-Sidhi techniques. They also do > not believe he ever trained as a TM teacher/initiator. Here is what he > refuses to answer: > > * When and Where he learned the Transcendental Meditation > technique of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? (Course dates and location) > * When and Where he learned the Transcendental Mediation-Sidhi > (TM-Sidhi) techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? (Course dates and > location) > > He claims to have studied/trained with other meditation teachers and > gurus, both Indian and Buddhist. He critiques TM and TM-Sidhi practice > based upon these supposed teachings and training. Who were these > teachers and/or gurus? He can't answer. > > He claims to have received personal teachings (not general teachings > about doctrine) but can not say: > > * where and when did he receive these personal teachings > * what was the declared lineage or sampradaya of these > teachers and their teachings > > Readers are, of course, free to disregard or ignore these questions > about Vag. However, please note that he won't even give any credit > to his teachers. This is a sign that he is just making it up from books > he has read and/or webinars he has attended. > > In the very traditions he proclaims so boldly, this is considered a form > of theft and a way to dishonor his spiritual teacher, his own pledges > with his teachers (samaya or words of honor) and the teachers teachings. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:56 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > > He is anti-Maharishi for deep reasons of commitment to the path as > > > he understands it. Maharishi's fraudulence really bugs him.It is > > > fascinating. That is so different from my own take on Maharishi. I > > > also believe he was a fraud in the "tradition" (obnoxious air > > > quotes here) but because I don't recognize any "tradition" (Yup, I > > > actually put my fingers up again) as an expert in the human mind, I > > > don't care as much. > > > > > > I wouldn't say I'm anti-Maharishi, what bugs me is that there is a > > set of people who are interested in solely perpetuating an air- > > brushed and false history as fact, and suppressing his actual > > history. I'd much rather see the truth than fiction, as the truth is > > often better than fiction. In this case, it's downright hilarious. > > > > I'd actually agree with RWC that David Wants to Fly completely > > vindicates our views on the man, as it simply reveals the truth > > behind the facade. It's like stepping to the side of a Bollywood set > > and realizing it was only a front, a facade - then you laugh and > > laugh at the "reality" you once believed was so real. > > > > Re: Judy's angst. I never would expect Judy to get the spirit of TM > > when she's merely taken it to heart. 'The meanings of the words are > > taken as sacred concepts. The > > letter of the instruction is taken to heart rather than the spirit. > > To take the teacher's word literally is, for example, to construe > > reality as something concrete to be attained by striving in technique > > and method rather than as a door into the reality of the moment. > > Words and concepts are a means to their own transcendence in the here- > > and-now. Fascination with structure is a deviation; doctrine > > professed as 'true' and 'correct' gives Enlightened Consciousness a > > mask of the ridiculous.' > > > > Such people will never understand the real mechanics of transcendence > > but merely remain trapped with the golden cage of their dearly held > > concepts. > > >