Anyway to clarify further - all the houses for me are structured perfectly, with specific indications, supporting each other very well. If you take 5th as mind it completely breaks down things - as it is most accept 9th house for higher education. And as I said - 5th supports mind, being 3rd (initiative) from 3rd (intellect) and 2nd(resources) from 4th (emotions) - but 5th doesn't represent mind, just creativity.
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com>wrote: > Dear John, > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:31 PM, John <jr_...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Hey Ravi, >> >> You're smarter than you look.:) Please, check the FFL chart with the >> following birth data: >> > > Well I have spent a lot of time studying astrology in the past and it's > basically fun for me to analyze the patterns since it gives good insights - > mostly from a personality perspective. I haven't spent any time on > astrology readings in recent times. > > >> >> September 5, 2001 >> 14:24:00 >> TZ 5 >> Fairfield, Iowa >> >> Based on my analysis, the chart is fairly representative of the forum's >> characteristics. >> > > Thanks for the chart - I have looked at it briefly and definitely - a > nice and interesting chart. > > >> >> > >> > "Jupiter in the 8th house causes arguments among members since Jupiter >> is >> > the lord of the 5th house or the mind/discussions of concepts." >> > >> > This is a ridiculous argument, arguments would have some airy influence >> so >> > should involve 3/11 houses. >> >> The point being made is that when there is lack of equanimity of mind due >> to difference of opinion, anger and disagreements happen. This is what is >> meant when the lord of the 5th house (representing the mind) is placed in >> the 8th house, the field of death. >> > > Regardless of what KN Rao says I don't accept 5th house as representing > mind - mind is intellect - 3rd house and emotions - 4th house, 5th is for > all creative self-expression. If you look at 5th, it is 2nd from 4th hence > food for 4th - so creative self expression leads to happier emotions but > 5th is 3rd from 3rd - so the initiative for intellect driven by 5th - so > planets in 5th will affect intellect and emotions but 5th doesn't represent > mind. > > In fact arguments is natural for a list like this yeah? But how healthy is > it - The problem I see is Mars/Ketu in the 2nd house and it points to lot > of passive aggressive behavior, repressed anger - since Mars is being > eclipsed by Ketu. Mars is also lord of 1st - so lack of self-identity > manifested by overt, agressive stance against traditions, Gurus as > represented by Rahu, Jupiter in 8th. So 2 of the male planets Jupiter and > Mars are eclipsed by Rahu and Ketu - so most of the posters may have issues > expressing masculinity, lacking positive expressions of masculine > qualities. However Sun is well placed as 10th lord in 10th. > > > >> >> >> 8th is not written composition, 8th is the gut, >> > intuition - Jupiter in 8th wouldn't cause arguments more like Jupiter - >> higher intelligence directed towards 8th house matters - i.e. metaphysics. >> >> Here's a practical rationale why the 8th house is the field of written >> works. Typically, writers create their thoughts while in seclusion in their >> desk. Being secluded is signified by the 8th house. Thus, the creativity is >> spawned in the field of transformation, the 8th house, strange as it may >> seem. >> >> > Right 8th is for seclusion, since being 6th from 3rd - it shows the > sadhana needed to support healthy intellect. So I may yield here a little > bit since Rahu eclipses Jupiter here in the 8th but I don't agree on 8th > being written compositions. Writing is 3rd house, Sanjay Rath would say > look at A3 - arudha pada of 3rd house - for books, writings and here A3 is > in the 11th house with Mercury in it which points to the excellent writing > here on FFL. Not to mention the the beautiful Moon - the lord of 9th in the > 5th, 3rd lord Saturn in 7th and even 7th lord Venus in 9th - those are all > good positions. > > > >> >> > And no 5th house has nothing to do with mind, 5th house is for like you >> say elsewhere love( as opposed to marriage), creativity, mantra, innate >> hidden talents, children. >> >> KN Rao stated that jyotishis from Northern India use the fifth house to >> represent education at the high school level. Thus, it's logical to >> consider the 5th house to represent the mind. However, the other >> significations you mentioned are correct. >> > > Yeah - like I said before 5th supports mind - 3rd & 4th but I don't treat > 5th as representing mind. > > >> >> > >> > "The combination of Jupiter and Rahu causes discussion of atheistic >> > philosophies, particularly that of Richard Dawkins." >> > >> > This again is ridiculous. Jupiter and Rahu is Guru Chandala Yoga - so >> this list would be against authority, against Gurus, against tradition >> (hence being in West opposed to mainstream Christianity, favoring Eastern >> religions) in the areas of metaphysics, spiritual transformation (8th). >> > >> You tend to shoot before you aim, old chap. As you well know, Rahu is >> considered a demon in the vedic literature. And, Jupiter is considered to >> be the guru, the significator of traditional beliefs. If Rahu is in >> conjunction of Jupiter, Rahu will negatively influence the traditional >> beliefs signified by Jupiter. Thus, IMO the conjunction causes atheistic >> ideas and philosophies. >> >> Nonetheless, your other points in this regard are well taken. >> > > Well - I'm well aware of Rahu John. But I wouldn't take Rahu to represent > atheism, Rahu for me shows obsession, grabbing versus Ketu - suppression, > denial - remember Rahu trying to down the Amrita and getting beheaded. > Atheism would have to be lot of airy influences with Mercury, Ketu & Saturn > - I can't be sure. Either way I don't see any atheists on the site other > than Curtis, but then again I haven't seen him expressing too much of his > atheistic side anyway more as in questioning traditions, Gurus etc. Anyway > my point remains - as in Guru Chandala shows posters against Gurus, > traditions and this is quite clear here on FFL. Being in Gemini shows the > intellectual flair again, the lord Mercury again reconfirming it being > exalted in Virgo. > > >> >> >> > Stop confusing my Aunt Share you idiot !!! >> >> This kind of language just proves the point that the FFL chart is correct. >> > > Right - I would blame the Mars, Ketu in the 2nd house again :-) > > Thanks for the opportunity to flex my astrology muscles or is it astrology > brain cells :-) > > Love, > Ravi. > > >
