Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Douglas McClendon wrote:
Douglas McClendon wrote:


Theoretical Workaround #1-5
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Just curious; I like what I'm reading, although I do not follow some parts of the theoretical workarounds, but: Is there any particular use case for all of this? I'm asking, because the only thing I can think of, it's all this work being done to prevent a user's "5-min-avg-uptime" desktop from having to reboot after install from a live disc.

Short answer - dunno. I think however "5-min-avg-uptime" doesn't quite describe it. The essence of why liveCDs are cool(==useful?) in the first place, is because they allow users to try out the complete system, without the traditionally complex and problematic process of installing and configuring a linux system. I'm not sure if in 2001 I or Mr. Knopper could really have foreseen the plethora of use-cases for liveCDs as they are used today.

In a similar vein, I would say that, perhaps this feature, which I'm just working on out of pure spite for "unnecessary reboots" will spark someone else's imagination, and use-cases will become more evident in the future. Don't even get me started about seeing setroubleshoot suggesting that I reboot my system to fix a problem...

Also, as to actual use-cases, clearly persistance-to-USB flash as already described in the livecd-tools wish-list is _vastly_ more useful than all this hackery. But as it turns out, implementing that involves mechanisms of the same nature as these hacks. I'll segway that to...

Theoretical Alternate Implementation #1
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Utilize Mark McCloughlin's dm-snapshot merging patch alluded to here -

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StatelessLinuxCachedClient

That page, along with this one-

http://linuxgazette.net/114/kapil.html

should tie your brain in even more knots ;) Maybe by the time you've untied, you'll have stumbled across some important use-cases that no one has considered yet, because they didn't know it was possible.

-dmc/jdog


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