On Jun 20, 2007, at 7:09 PM, keith helgesen wrote:

Your site simply proves my point.
I freely admit I like music in straight lines!

Well, your (or my) personal likes are not really the point. A bunch of us who use Finale need to be able to accommodate odd requests from composers we don't particularly like (the request, I mean, not the composer!) and need the tool to do it with.


I don't want or need staggered barlines,

Britten's "A Young Person's Guide To THe Orchestra" would be undoable then. It isn't that far-out a work. "Roundabout" by Yes uses superimposed time signatures, and it got a lot of radio play when I was a teenager. Some modern, but very listenable, jazz uses superimposed time signatures these days. Robin Eubanks, Chris Potter, Andy Milne, are some of my favourites. Since you mentioned Charlie Parker, you might really enjoy Chris Potter's music. He's really not difficult at all to someone who can understand Parker.


Un-metered music? Not my scene-


You've never played a cadenza? A recitative in an oratorio or opera? No early music either?


and I suspect that there are a lot of
Finale-ists out there who would never use 'circles', 'tapers' etc.


I go a fair amount of time between needs like that myself, but I want to be ABLE to do it when I need to!

I recently did a rather conservative hymn-like choral setting, and adding a extra eighth note to one of the verses (multiple verses stacked below one staff) proved to be a real kludge in Finale! The extra eighth note was reduced in size, you see, and the syllable kept reducing with it, and if I put it in another layer Finale thought it was a melisma and added an extension line, and the hyphen didn't work... arrggh! I really didn't expect to get so hung up on such a simple departure from the norm. I can only imagine what people like jef chippewa and Dennis B-K go through on a regular basis.



I want to produce printed music for a band, orchestra or smaller combos to
play, enjoy playing and for Joe Public to enjoy listening to.


And every once in a while one needs to do something unusual, and shouldn't be hampered by the tools.

I could take exception to the implication that some of the notation techniques mentioned thus far could somehow cause the music to be unenjoyable to listen to by the lay public, but that would just be starting a fight.


The question of Brahms v Stockhausen? I wouldn't know- but check the sales
figures of recordings of both!


You aren't seriously saying that SALES figures are a valid criteria by which to judge music? I only mention Britney Spears for comparison...

Christopher




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