On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 08:07:54AM -0500, Gary D. Long wrote:
> Kevin,
> 
> On the contrary, I am very helpful to the overall security and firewall community
> as a whole, having installed many systems and trained throughout the nation and the
> world.  Being a security-minded individual, I am very skeptical of anyone
> requesting information that would point directly to the type of firewall I or my
> company utilizes.  Security-minded individuals don't disclose this type of
> information at will.

Pfft.  You're saying that I couldn't easily determine this information from a 5-10
second cursory scan of your network?  TCP fingerprinting + looking for known proxies
does wonders.  Every firewall product is readily detectable.

> In addition, since you have now disclosed that you are a Cisco employee, I would be
> less apt to provide you with any information regarding my security infrastructure.
> This appears to be some sort of "get rich" scheme on your behalf.
> My advice to the firewall community is to request co-ownership of the product
> before its development.

Heaven forbid anyone cooperate!  I would certainly advise against revealing
privileged information such as supported services, trusted addresses, or behind-
firewall translated ip addresses.  On the other hand, what the guy was looking
for was some logs.  If you choose not to support him, that's fine.  But I don't
think your rant was needed.. and I, personally, would appreciate it if you'd
take your little vendetta off list.

Mike

> Sincerely,
> 
> --
> Gary D. Long
> Kindred Systems, Inc.
> 888-746-4574
> www.kindredsystems.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Michael P. Lyle
Security Architect
Exodus Communications, Inc.
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