We're in perfect agreement then!

cheers,

-Jason

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Matt Doughty wrote:

> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:39:40 +0900
> From: Matt Doughty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jason Axley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Matt Doughty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>     "Mullen, Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>     "'Michael H. Warfield'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>     Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>     Bill Lavalette -=- Operations NdrsNet NOC/CERT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>     "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: BO2k source code
> 
> On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 07:27:49PM -0800, Jason Axley wrote:
> > Let me just flog this horse one more time...
> > 
> > No, we can't all agree that "bo2k's intentions aren't above board".  Have
> > you ever used it or seen it used?  It can do some very cool things that
> > the stock windoze applications can't.  Want to securely transfer files
> > between windows machines?  Want to remotely administer a windows machine?
> > How about remotely edit a registry?  Want to list and kill processes
> > remotely?  Want to do this with the stock OS?
> > Sorry!  You need additional software to do this and many other things.
> > bo2k can do this and more for you--for FREE!
> > 
> Ok I was little to blanketing in my statement to avoid the continuation of the
> arguement about intention of the software.  I really meant in common usage.
> Functionality aside, I feel it is safe to say that BO2k is most commonly 
> used for malicious purposes. I'm sure this form of usage far exceeds those
> using it for legitimate administration. If this is due to a certain amount
> of stigma associated with the software is certainly open for debate, but there
> is no question that the underground community is enamoured with the tool.
> Anyway, my main point was, and still is, wether you think it is a malicious
> tool for script kiddies to wreak havoc, or a legitimate and very useful
> remote admin tool, It doesn't fit the definition of a trojan until you wrap
> it in another app/game/message card.. If you think it does then you are even
> either not reading the definition or you are selectively ignoring key parts
> of the definition due to your hate of the software.
> 
> Matt Doughty BOT BSC Japan.
> 
> 
> 


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