Brian Ford wrote:
> 
> Talk to your "friend" again (or read the e-mail message
> that I sent to the list).  The original e-mail message 
> did not contain any reference BY ME to your product or service.
> 
> My e-mail message was addressing criteria that I have encountered
> as to how customers evaluate firewall vendors offerings.


Darn, I was hoping to keep this off-list, but, okay.
(I _did_ read the mail that you sent to the list; as I said, 
I've got all 3500 posts from september to present spooled.)


On December 4th, 2000, Kriss Andsten wrote:
> > Check out Enternet firewall (and the company in general). 
> > Their sales pitch is 'good security is a pain' and 'a 
> > firewall isnt a magic little device that makes you secure'. 
> > Their idea is nice, their approach frank. Their pricing 
> > realistic. They -dig up- the vulnerabilities (Hi Mike) 
> > And they dont sell blue boxes.


To which Brian Ford responded:
> Great! "good security is a pain"!  Security is too hard for 
> just anyone to understand.  You need a specialized guy (like you) 
> to figure out all the big, bad security stuff.  Gee, and you 
> subscribe to all those special mailing lists that other people 
> don't know about.  Right?
> 
> Their price may be realistic given what they provide.  What 
> about support?  I suppose they have someone who regularly 
> answers e-mail.  Maybe a local phone number?  Maybe a FAQ?
> 
> That's good.  They "dig up vulnerabilities".
> But do they solve customers problems?


I do still believe that a fair share of the readers could
not help but interpret this as a direct response to Kriss' 
statements about us, from someone automatically lent a
certain degree of credibility just from the company that 
you represent. This prompted my (late) reply. 

However, I could of course be wrong, so in the 
interest of keeping the noise to signal ratio of 
the list down, I yield and apologize for any 
inconvenience caused.

Regards,
Mikael Olsson

-- 
Mikael Olsson, EnterNet Technologies
Storgatan 12, Box 393, SE-891 28  ÖRNSKÖLDSVIK
Phone: +46 (0)660 29 92 00   Mobile: +46 (0)70 66 77 636
Fax: +46 (0)660 122 50       WWW: http://www.enternet.net

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are bosses who don't know that they don't know" /Anonymous techie
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