Minor tangent:  When it is thought to be time for me to do something, a 
conversation can often be overheard between my female deaf dog and my wife 
about what needs to be done.   This results in the dog coming to me beg for 
attention, bringing me items found in the backyard, etc.  It breaks up my 
concentration and leads me on to the next thing.   Another male dog would 
directly lobby her when he wanted to go on walk, understanding that I would 
always be doing the walking.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of thompnicks...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:24 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

One of my colleagues used to say that "we" ought to spend more time with 
undergraduates.  Since she herself was DEFINITELY not planning to spend more 
time with undergraduates, that really meant that she wanted ME to spend more 
time with undergraduates.   You are technically correct, I suppose, that I am 
using the term "modally" incorrectly, since all language is modal in some 
sense.  The Cat is In The Hat is a proposition in the indicative mood.  Put the 
Damned hat in the Cat!  Is in the imperative mood.  The Cat Belongs in the Hat 
is in the "deontive?" mood ... the mood of obligation.  What people do is try 
to hook other people by stating their wants in the denotive mood.  "Isn't it 
time to mow the lawn, dear?"  and "Gawsh, we haven't had strawberry short cake 
in ages" are both subtle denotive moves.  "Health care is a right" is an 
example of a policy preference masquerading as denotive proposition.   One of 
the things I THINK I know about you is that you hate that sort of thing even 
more than I do.  

Nick 

PS:  If you forbade empty deontive propositions from facutly meetings they 
would be shortened by 80 percent.

Nick Thompson
thompnicks...@gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:00 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

I don't have the slightest idea what you mean by "modal language", I guess. I 
thought you meant necessary versus possible.

On 9/22/21 1:56 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am overjoyed to see that Hume's Guillotine is the origin of my "note the 
> use of modal language" thing. 


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