FWIW. Dennett gave a talk at Carnegie Mellon not long after Consciousness Explained was published. He said, "Some wits have said the title should have been 'Consciousess Explained Away'. Ha Ha Ha." With pauses between the Ha's.
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 11:13 AM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: > Metaphors are in a sense the equations of the mind. At the core of many > good books there is a single metaphor (for instance "The Selfish Gene" from > Dawkins), or multiple ones (for example "Metaphors we live by" from Lakoff > & Johnson). This week I have found a nice metaphor site.. > http://metaphors.lib.virginia.edu/metaphors > > ..when I googled the sailor metaphor from Descartes (which I saw in a > Retweet of Keith Frankish from Theodore A. Hoppe). Descartes said "The "I" > is not present in the body as a sailor is in a ship but is joined and > intermingled with it" > http://metaphors.lib.virginia.edu/metaphors/9253 > > It is a remarkable quote from Descartes. To view the mind as an > interwoven, intermingled and entangled substance sounds very modern to me. > Maybe Descartes was not as wrong as Dennett claims in his book > "Consciousness Explained"? If I recall correctly the whole book is based on > dismissing the idea of a Cartesian Theater from Descartes > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_theater > > -J. > > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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