"Paul Smith"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> %% Dominik Vogt <fvwm-workers@fvwm.org> writes:
> 
>   >> > You might consider filing a bug report with the xmms folks.
>   >> 
>   >> Not a bad idea...
> 
>   dv> This is *definitely* an xmms bug.  It is perfectly legal for any
>   dv> application to grab the X server at any time, although it should
>   dv> be released as fast as possible.  Running tasks that work in real
>   dv> time in the same process/thread as X11 calls is simply stupid.  If
>   dv> we'd fix that in fvwm there are thousands of other programs that
>   dv> can potentially cause similar problems.
> 
> Isn't this what happens when you post a menu, for example?  The server
> is grabbed?  That's why you can whiz the mouse around the screen and the
> menu stays posted and other windows don't get focus (even if you have
> focus follows mouse) and the mouse cursor doesn't change shape, etc.
> 
> And I don't men just FVWM menus, I mean menus in just about any app.
> 
> Or, is that something different?

Thats something different, those menus grab the pointer, not
the server.

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>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:34:23 +0100
>>>>> "Dominik" == Dominik Vogt <fvwm-workers@fvwm.org> wrote:
Dominik> 
Dominik> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 02:41:37PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote:
>> >>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:57:41 +0100
>> >>>>> "Dominik" == Dominik Vogt <fvwm-workers@fvwm.org> wrote:
Dominik> 
Dominik> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 04:03:40AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote:
>> >> If button is something like
>> >> *FvwmButtons(Title "Title", Action 'Exec something&')
>> >> and we have 
>> >> *FvwmButtonsPixmap pixmap.xpm
>> >> Button title will not be coverd with pixmap.xpm
>> >> 
>> >> I think this is not desired bahaviour.
Dominik> 
Dominik> I agree that it's not the desired effect in all cases, but it is
Dominik> definitely the way the code was designed (i.e. on purpose, not by
Dominik> accident).  I think it's easy to add an option that controls this.
Dominik> 
>> In other words, this will not be fixed?
Dominik> 
Dominik> If you mean to implement it in the way you describe and scrap the
Dominik> old code, then - yes - it won't be fixed.  That does not mean that
Dominik> I won't implement another option for pixmaps on the button that
Dominik> allows to choose one of both alternatives.

Then I thin a comment should be paleced in FvwmButtons man page near
       *FvwmButtons: Pixmap pixmapfile
              Specifies  a  background  pixmap  to  use.  Specify
              "none" for a transparent background.

Dominik> 
>> Can you tell me what is this purpose?
Dominik> 
Dominik> I think the idea was to have a labeled button with a pixmap above
Dominik> it that indicates the action that the button triggers.  You are

Hmm.. This is done with "Icon", not with all buttons wide "Pixmap", or
I understand something incorrectly?

Dominik> probably thinking of the pixmap as a background for the text.
Dominik> Both approaches are certainly valid, but only the first one is
Dominik> implemented at this time.

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