With GNOME and EWMH we now have a flood of different methods to specify style and state of a window that compete against each other. Since there already are a lot of problems, I think we need to redesign how hints/styles/states are applied to a window. Right now we have:
GNOME hints set by the application GNOME hints set by fvwm EWMH hints set by the application EWMH hints set by fvwm Hints set by the application Fvwm's styles Fvwm's window states For some styles/states it's already almost impossible to keep track of the proper hint to use. The latest example is the GNOME layer hint: when fvwm creates a window, it sets that hint. Later, if you recapture the window or restart fvwm, fvwm finds the layer property on the window and overrides the style, even if it changed. Note that this happens for windows that never set any GNOME hints themselves. I propose the following solution for the external hints (GNOME, EWMH and possibly others in the future): Every window property that is defined externally is duplicated with an FVWM prefix. E.g. NET_WM_FOOBAR --> FVWM_NET_WM_FOOBAR When application provides a hint, e.g. the layer hint, that new property is deleted from its window. If fvwm sets a hint it sets the original property and the FVWM_ property to the according value. Now, whenever fvwm checks for a hint (recapture, restart, etc.) it prefers to use its own styles over any GNOME/EWMH hints that were set by itself (or another fvwm). So, the normal order of preference would be: EWMH hints (by application) GNOME hints (by application) Styles Application hints EWMH hints (by fvwm) GNOME hints (by fvwm) I feel positive that I could do that with the GNOME code, but I don't understand the EWMH code enough to make the proper changes. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Visit the official FVWM web page at <URL:http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]