On 11 Mar 2002 17:03:19 +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:01:46AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 08:42:24AM +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:37:53AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > > > BTW, I'm not convinced titles with one letter atop the other look > > > > better than rotated titles. > > > > > > Maybe this should be a style? RotateVerticalTitle / AtopVerticalTitle. > > > > > > <Some others remarks without real importance in comparison from the > > > wonderfull fact that fvwm has now vertical title!!> > > > > It's probably not important enough to write code for *both* ways. > > Yes, but I make some test with "Atop". This is ugly and castrophic > with certain string. I think we should rotate.
These are my thoughs too. Both monitors and fonts are not designed at all for the Japanese like direction. Displays are wide, fonts are thin with the constant height and different widths, this makes it nice to write it left-to-right or right-to-left, but not top-to-bottom (even if centered). > > > Also, it is not clear for me in which "direction" we should rotate > > > the title. It is clear that the default is to perform a -90° rotation, > > > as French guys (and maybe pepeole from other countries) would like > > > a +90° rotation > > > > +90° is "top to bottom" and -90° is "bottom to top"? The most > > natural way seems to be text from bottom to top on the left side > > and top to bottom on the right side. When you turn your head > > before the screen it tends to lean a bit to the side: > > > > | <- the neck in neutral position > > / <- when looking right > > \ <- when looking left > > > > Thus, the angle between the lines between the eyes and the title > > is reduced a bit (85° instead of 90° for example). Of course you > > can have the left side of a window to the right of your head, but > > it's less likely to happen. > > Interesting. I thought about books in a library: for example, > American book title are top to bottom as French book title are > bottom to top. Maybe, these traditions are important as the users > may have their brain already formed for a given direction? I need to turn my head to the left for books in 2 my languages, like with French. I think you are right about a brain already formed to turn a head to the left, even for right titles. An option would be good (3 values: SideTextRotateRight, SideTextRotateLeft, SideTextRotateAsTitle). > > (this concerns also buttons position: left buttons should be on > > top?). > > Buttons 13579 are always left or on top, 24680 right or at the > bottom. Otherwise you'd have to place the "left" buttons at the > right side of a bottom title too. Ideally, it should be configured, OddButtonsAtLeftTop or ButtonsRotated. This would affect a bottom title too of course. Though this is not critical at all. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at <URL:http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
