On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:56:05 +0200,
  "Olivier Chapuis" <olivier chapuis free fr> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:21:55AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > On 18 Apr 2002 16:37:00 -0700, Nadim Shaikli wrote:
> > > 
> > > Mikhael/Olivier, I downloaded a recent snapshot (20020416) to test
> > > out the Bidi code that was recently added.  I compiled with fribidi;
> > > everything went smoothly - configure noted,
> > > 
> > >   With Bi-directional text support?   yes
> > > 
> > > yet I'm not sure how to go about displaying a window title in Arabic.
> > > I tried the following,
> > > 
> > >   Using a 10646 font (its used successful in many other applications),
> > >   I defined the following entries in my fvwm2rc file,
> > > 
> > >   Style * Font
-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-full10x20-1
> > > 
> 
> Nadim, can you send me a pointer to a doc about the "full10x20" notation
> for loading iso10646 font?

I'm not sure what you mean by "loading the 10646 font", but you can
download the non-truncated 10x20 font using the link(s) below,

  http://www.arabeyes.org/download/external/vim/10x20.bdf.gz
   -or-
  http://www.arabeyes.org/download/external/vim/10x21.pcf.Z

Note: the internal names of the fonts within the files might differ,
      please check 'mkfontdir' output (fonts.dir) for appropriate
      names -- if you have problems, don't hesitate to let me know.

> > >   AddToMenu arabic-test
> > >   + "Arabic" Title 
> > >   + "ar-test"    Exec exec xterm -title Ù?رحØ?ا -e rsh otho &
> > >   + "Ù?رحØ?ا"  Exec exec xterm -title test -e rsh otho &
> > > 
> > >   In my .xinitrc prior to starting fvwm2, I 'xset fp+
my_10646_font_file',
> > >   I then start fvwm2; I invoke that "ar-test" entry, the xterm appears,
> > >   but the title is NOT displayed in arabic.  The menu entry is not noted
> > >   in Arabic either.  Do note that the environment is set so that I can
use
> > >   other applications that require the Bidi library and the 10646 font (so
> > >   they're very much loaded - I hope I don't need to muck with locales and
> > >   such :-)
> > 
> > I don't know how to tell fvwm that the encoding is utf8; using *-10646-1
> > font is not enough. Setting $LC_CTYPE to, say, ar_JO.utf8 does not work.
> > I suppose Olivier knows.
> 
> It seems that there is two problems here.
>
> - Displaying  string with a core *-iso10646-1 font: at the present
> time this should work only with fvwm compiled with MB support, an utf8
> locale and a libc that support utf8 locale (also X should reconize
> the locale as an utf locale: see /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/loacle.alias).
> Unfortunately, I cannot test this as my libc does not support utf8
> locale. Mikhael, can you confirm that this work?
>
> - To apply bidi fvwm should reconize a core *-10646-1 font, I think
> that fvwm fail to do this because I think that the default charset
> with the utf8 XFree-4 locale is iso8859-1. This may be fixed after
> a confirmation that the first point work.
> 
> I will see if we can implement the use of core *-iso10646-1 font
> without all the above requirement (but with XFree-4).
> On the other hands, I think that with a true type iso10646-1
> font there is no problem (needs XFree-4.x, x>=1 and iso10646-1
> ttf with arabic/hebrew/persian characters to see bidi in work)

Well, I'm not sure why all that is needed (I'm simply trying to display
a few glyphs not alter my keyboard mapping, or specify date/currency
settings, etc).  By the way, I'm able to use multiple Arabic-enabled
utilities without having to touch any of what is noted above (locales,
libc support, etc) given the availability of the fonts and a rendering
engine (glyph displayer) and Bidi (fribidi) - one such application is
vim-6.0/6.1.

On the same related-topic what about those that are not running linux
per se, but are using various unix flavors (at work, for instance, I'm
on a Sparc Solaris (SunOS-5.7)).

Thanks & let me know if you need more info.

 - Nadim (please continue to CC for a faster response :-)


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