--- Mikhael Goikhman <migo homemail.com> wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2003 10:51:29 -0700, Nadim Shaikli wrote:
> > 
> > A couple of quick comments on the new PHP website (I like it btw).
> > I use emacs and w3m to surf the web (who needs those graphic things
> > anyways :-) and would like to suggest the following,
> > 
> >  1. Detect if a user is using emacs/w3m and divert him/her to the
> >     "layout=plain" pages.
> 
> Once cookies are used (planned), you will just set plain layout and it
> will be used for all pages in all your visits.

emacs/w3m doesn't use cookies (I'll have to check), but a redirect is
not an option based on a user's browser - ie. that's not doable ?

> >  2. Remove all buttons from the "layout=plain" page (ie. the [item_dot]).
> >     - All current links within main page's "Quick Jumps" are
> >       proceeded by these blue'ish/pink'ish buttons
> 
> Seems like another browser ignoring alt="", I will use alt="*".

Ah, cool those pesky "[item_dot]" are gone - wonderful :-)

> >     - Having the logo and a couple of images is cool, but
> >       sprinkling things all over seems like it would be
> >       counter to the "plain" idea.
> 
> Just tried w3m in xterm. It is weird, I see graphics in xterm (from
> XFree86-4.3.0). I mean it is very cool to see graphics in xterm.
> 
> After the small change above, the plain layout in w3m looks perfect,
> so I am not sure what "sprinkling things all over" mean.

I meant those iterm_dot shouldn't really be there in the "plain" page
(thanks for removing them).  Try to run w3m under emacs (not xemacs) --
you'll need 'emacs-w3m-1.3.3'

> >  3. All screenshots/decor/menu samples should only be included if and
> >     only if there are sample files one can download to see how that is
> >     accomplished.  Case in point, there are some cool screenshots, but
> >     no .fvwm2rc file to accompany them -- kinda seems useless to me to
> >     even include that screenshot in the first place.
> 
> Some configs require several megabytes of images (maybe dozens of
> images). Some configs rely on custom scripts. Some configs are platform
> dependant. It is not plug and play (unless it is fvwm-themes :) ).

It would still be nice to have this info somewhere - how about hosting
those setup files on sf.net or on the person submitting the screenshot's
host.  In short, a nice screenshot with no info will simply generate more
questions than it will answer (it would be best to relay questions and
inquires somewhere more relevant, no?)

Thanks

 - Nadim


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