As an aside for the r8c, I have a .pcb file for an eval board for the R8C sdip-20 chips, which breaks out the chip to 100 mil headers and includes the oscillator:
http://www.delorie.com/pcb/r8c-1b-adapter/ Renesas was almost giving away the starterkits for them a while back. Digikey carries them (but doesn't stock them, so there's a wait). They range in price from $38 to $300 depending on how big the board is, and they all come with cables and tools. Search for "renesas mini starterkit" at digikey.com. They're easy to program; just a few gpio and a ttl-level serial port. Some of the newer ones can be programmed with a single gpio line (bidirectional serial). Also, bug reports with the gnu tools get fixed pretty quickly ;-) The register configuration is a little weird, though. That's a plus for assembly programmers (wide range of choices) but it made the gcc port more complicated. _______________________________________________ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user