Thanks for clarifying - I suppose it would be possible to segment the level of 
support to levels:

Level 1 would be is reading and writing the geometry, crs and tabular data, 
level 2 would be the styling - I'm currently examining the MITAB source to see 
how big a task this should be.

-Jesper

> On 18 Apr 2018, at 15.30, Ian Turton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> As I recall just importing the basic geometries from a MapInfo file wasn't 
> too hard but there is a whole bunch of styling and other junk in there too 
> that people wanted to read in. 
> 
> Plus whoever was doing it would need a MapInfo licence to generate/check 
> input files.
> 
> So not impossible but not cheap either.
> 
> Ian
> 
> On 18 April 2018 at 13:56, Andrea Aime <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi Jesper,
> you can take over maintainership of the BridJ module and fix the build, or 
> sponsor
> someone to do it for you.
> 
> Writing mapinfo support in java would be best of course, but also believe 
> it's a sizable effort
> (take a look at the OGR mapinfo source code, something similar would have to 
> be built
> for GeoTools, along with a good amount of tests).
> 
> Cheers
> Andrea
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Jesper Steen Møller <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> Ugh - removing OGR support will make it impossible for Java tools to access 
> MapInfo files. We're using BridJ for now, as it's easier to get the GDAL bits 
> without the corresponding JNI shared object.
> 
> Is there anything I could do to help? How big a job is building MapInfo 
> support in Java?
> 
> -Jesper
> 
>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 14.30, Andrea Aime <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> any feedback? If not, I plan to remove the module sometimes soon.
>> (mind, the JNI module will be broken just the same at runtime, but won't 
>> fail the build unless the JNI native lib is around, which is normally not)
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Andrea Aime <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hi Ben,
>> I've already inquired to Even about those failures, looks like signature of 
>> a few methods changes in OGR 1.11.
>> Both JNI and BridJ bindings fail, the difference is that BridJ does not need 
>> the "bridge" JNI native library so it
>> runs most of the time, while the JNI one skip the tests.
>> 
>> Now, with something dynamic as BridJ I guess one could check the OGR 
>> version, have native bindings for
>> the various methods overloads, and call the right ones, but for the JNI case 
>> I'm not sure what to do.
>> 
>> This notion of "buliding against a knows GDAL version" is not a match for 
>> the way we do things, GeoTools/GeoServer
>> are just dropped on a machine and the find whatever they find, there is no 
>> notion of packaging against a specific
>> version like with the native packages.
>> 
>> All in all I'm tempted to just drop support for the OGR data store, at least 
>> of the BridJ part, it's getting too much
>> work to maintain and there are other things having a higher priority, and to 
>> be honest, I have never used it
>> for a real project (I created the first version of it in my spare time as a 
>> "good gesture" in the OSGeo familiy,
>> but never got traction).
>> 
>> Discussion with Even follows.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Andrea Aime <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Date: Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 4:27 PM
>> Subject: Binary incompatible change in OGR JNI?
>> To: Even Rouault <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Even,
>> recently I have had reports of some failures in the GeoTools bridge to OGR.
>> Looking into it I've found this build error:
>> 
>> Warning 1: Field name of width 255 truncated to 254.
>> Tests run: 27, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 1.882 sec 
>> <<< FAILURE! - in org.geotools.data.ogr.jni.JniOGRDataStoreTest
>> testGeometryFilters(org.geotools.data.ogr.jni.JniOGRDataStoreTest)  Time 
>> elapsed: 0.014 sec  <<< ERROR!
>> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: 
>> org.gdal.ogr.ogrJNI.Layer_SetSpatialFilter(JLorg/gdal/ogr/Layer;JLorg/gdal/ogr/Geometry;)V
>>      at org.gdal.ogr.ogrJNI.Layer_SetSpatialFilter(Native Method)
>>      at org.gdal.ogr.Layer.SetSpatialFilter(Layer.java:89)
>>      at 
>> org.geotools.data.ogr.jni.JniOGR.LayerSetSpatialFilter(JniOGR.java:257)
>>      at 
>> org.geotools.data.ogr.OGRFeatureSource.setLayerFilters(OGRFeatureSource.java:128)
>>      at 
>> org.geotools.data.ogr.OGRFeatureSource.getCountInternal(OGRFeatureSource.java:158)
>>      at 
>> org.geotools.data.ogr.OGRFeatureStore.getCountInternal(OGRFeatureStore.java:109)
>>      at 
>> org.geotools.data.store.ContentFeatureSource.getCount(ContentFeatureSource.java:507)
>>      at 
>> org.geotools.data.store.ContentFeatureCollection.size(ContentFeatureCollection.java:231)
>>      at 
>> org.geotools.data.ogr.OGRDataStoreTest.testGeometryFilters(OGRDataStoreTest.java:750)
>>      at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>      at 
>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
>>      at 
>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>>      at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
>>      at junit.framework.TestCase.runTest(TestCase.java:176)
>>      at junit.framework.TestCase.runBare(TestCase.java:141)
>>      at junit.framework.TestResult$1.protect(TestResult.java:122)
>>      at junit.framework.TestResult.runProtected(TestResult.java:142)
>>      at junit.framework.TestResult.run(TestResult.java:125)
>>      at junit.framework.TestCase.run(TestCase.java:129)
>>      at org.geotools.data.ogr.TestCaseSupport.run(TestCaseSupport.java:113)
>>      at junit.framework.TestSuite.runTest(TestSuite.java:255)
>>      at junit.framework.TestSuite.run(TestSuite.java:250)
>>      at 
>> org.junit.internal.runners.JUnit38ClassRunner.run(JUnit38ClassRunner.java:84)
>>      at 
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.junit4.JUnit4Provider.execute(JUnit4Provider.java:264)
>>      at 
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.junit4.JUnit4Provider.executeTestSet(JUnit4Provider.java:153)
>>      at 
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.junit4.JUnit4Provider.invoke(JUnit4Provider.java:124)
>>      at 
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.ForkedBooter.invokeProviderInSameClassLoader(ForkedBooter.java:200)
>>      at 
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.ForkedBooter.runSuitesInProcess(ForkedBooter.java:153)
>>      at 
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.ForkedBooter.main(ForkedBooter.java:103)
>> 
>> Are you by any chance aware of such changes in the OGR JNI interface?
>> If you have to look, no problem, I'll do it, just wanted to see if it rings 
>> a bell for you.
>> 
>> Ah, context, the store was developed against 1.9, linux distros are 
>> currently shipping 1.11(.3)
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>> 
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