On 22 June 2012 21:22, Joshua Lieberman <j...@oklieb.net> wrote:
> Dan,
>
> The coincident first and last positions in a polygon coordinate list are in 
> GeoRSS because they are specified that way in both OGC and ISO standards and 
> therefore implemented that way in most every piece of geospatial software. It 
> is hard to track down all of the reasons for this, but technically the 
> polygon boundary is defined by linear interpolation between adjacent 
> coordinate tuples, so it helps with consistency. The order of the coordinate 
> positions usually has topological significance as well. Pretty much every 
> polygon coordinate string in the world is constructed this way (including the 
> example in (http://dev.iptc.org/rNews-10-The-Geo-Coordinates-Class , mangled 
> a bit), so it's an interoperability issue as far as reusing geodata.
>
> There are OWL / RDF representations defined for GeoRSS 
> (http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/geo/XGR-geo-20071023/W3C_XGR_Geo_files/geo_2007.owl)
>  and WKT or well-known-text (http://schemas.opengis.net/geosparql/) which 
> might also be useful for defining geo-schemas.

Thanks! Very helpful :) Are there any 'classic' samples / test cases /
examples for which we might usefully provide a schema.org version
alongside GeoRSS  / KML / etc versions of the same structure?

> Cheers,
>
> Josh
>
> On Jun 22, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Dan Brickley wrote:
>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> Can I ask for some help with http://schema.org/GeoShape ?
>>
>> I'm working on http://schema.org/, and it's come to my attention that
>> we have some half-baked geo stuff in there which I'd like to get
>> fixed. See #geo logs below. Basically there are a bunch of structures
>> derived from fairly similar stuff from IPTC's rNews 1.0, which itself
>> seems based on GeoRSS. I'd like to fix up our docs to have plausible
>> examples, as well link appropriately to GeoRSS and other related
>> specs.
>>
>> There are more details in
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2012Jun/0116.html
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> 14:36 danbri: ahem,
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10297279/what-are-the-appropriate-formats-for-the-properties-of-http-schema-org-geoshap/10466686
>> 14:36 danbri: seems like we've some geo- cleanup to do in
>> http://schema.org/GeoShape ... advice welcomed
>> 14:36 danbri: details
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2012Jun/0116.html
>> 14:46 danbri: apparently schema.org geo is based on rNews is based on geoRss
>> 14:47 danbri: and I'm told ...
>> 14:47 danbri: 'In the GeoRSS spec, you'll see that the first and last
>> actually are the same, 45.256 -110.45, <georss:polygon>     45.256
>> -110.45 46.46 -109.48 43.84 -109.86 45.256 -110.45 '
>> 14:47 danbri: in the rNews examples we don't have the repetition; I
>> took it to be implicit and redundant. Thoughts?
>> 14:49 danbri looks at http://www.georss.org/simple#Polygon
>> 14:50 danbri: "A polygon contains a space separated list of
>> latitude-longitude pairs, with each pair separated by whitespace.
>> There must be at least four pairs, with the last being identical to
>> the first (so a polygon has a minimum of three actual points)."
>> 14:50 danbri: is the final one acting like a check?
>>
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