On 21/12/2013 14:44, Geert Janssens wrote:
On Friday 20 December 2013 18:34:50 Gary Bilkus wrote:
> Hi Geert,
>
> If you're already well into solving the problem, I'd be very happy to
> try and help with that effort. I will take a look at your repository
> at some point during the next few days.
> Would you expect this to work under 64 bit versions of Windows, or are
> the other comments about this still relevant? I must say I'm a bit
> confused that some replies, like that from Christian suggest that it
> should just work under the right Windows, whereas you're implying it
> doesn't, presumably at least partly because the various needed
> repositories are out of sync with the instructions.
> Have I understood correctly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
Hi Gary,
I wouldn't say my work is solving "the" problem. And I didn't mean to
suggest that building on Windows currently is not working right. I
meant to convey it's more difficult than it should be. I presume just
like Christian and Derek that the biggest hurdle is that the
documentation didn't keep up with changing external dependencies (eg,
which files to download from where to get started). I have a working
test setup myself on a Windows XP machine for example.
Yet my observation was that it is currently more complicated than
needed to build gnucash from scratch on Windows and I'm looking at
various things that can be done to improve this.
One is to make bootstrapping as easy as possible. Requiring lots of
manual steps only to start will scare away interested people.
Another issue is that we currently depend on a mingw configuration
that's fairly old. Mingw has restructured its downloads, so our
documentation has several stale links (as you have experienced yourself).
Not to mention that a more recent mingw environment solves a number of
issues compared to the old one. It may introduce new issues as well,
so before really switching we obviously should run lots of tests.
An example of an improvement in mingw is that it now comes with a
package manager. It has its limitations, but if used correctly it
simplifies our own dependency management for core dependencies, again
making development on Windows less challenging for newcomers.
Specifically to your current difficulty to get things running on
Windows 7 64bit, it may be that the 64bit part is interfering. I don't
know because I don't have the environment to test it. It's true that
standard mingw is 32 bit only. On the other hand it may also be that
the current build system assumes permissions to do certain things it
actually no longer has on Windows 7. We will figure this all out as we
progress with the rewrite of the Windows build scripts.
Geert
Hi Geert,
I've downloaded your repository and started trying to follow the
instructions in the README in /packaging/win32
But I'm not getting very far....
1. The location of MSYS needs to change from:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MSYS%20Base%20System/msys-1.0.11/MSYS-1.0.11.exe/download
to
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MSYS/Base/msys-core/msys-1.0.11/MSYS-1.0.11.exe
2. Similarly wget has moved slightly to:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/Other/mingwPORT/Current%20Releases/
So I download these, install msys set up a minimal custom.sh and start msys
But it immediately complains ./install-impl.sh mingw-get: command not found
So should I install mingw as well? If so where to, or doesn't it matter?
I'm sure I can work it out, but if the intention is a click and forget
install, there seems to be at least one step missing.
Or am I looking at the wrong instructions?
Thanks,
Gary
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