*afraid of long mails !!* ** *This is a submission b'coz am the one who posts larger than "long" mails. My submission is that size & length of the mails may be declared by a consensus/ fight/ warfare/ battle/ debate etc. Not anyway by moderator ( not only word count but average length by cm/inch. so that we can calculate the standard deviation. * ** *Just try to reverse it!!* *I am reminded of CBI swami perfomed by Mammotty ( See, how fast a 'brahmin came up to my mind!!) where in the process of investigation he ask his assistant: just reverse it. You get the picture. * ** *Piece-ful co-existence, new members, run aways (fugitives), moderations, law &order- * ** *Dear new members,* ** *The fun of GY in particular is that you can put here anything , even large amounts of greyish frurstrations. Size& breadth of frustrations we will all decide together. The added advanatge is that bocz of our "Frustros" one day they will help u runaway*
*thanks* ** *damodar * ** *damodar * On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "CONFESSED" and "ALLEGATIONS" > > just try to reverse it, then u will get the picture, dear ahmed. > and no offence intndd.... > > let the "piece--ful" co-existnce continue in the group > let new members join > let those who r run away > let MODERATIONS continue as we all believe in law and order > > after all who s above the LAW !! > > > > On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> hi bobby, >> nothing much...ranjuradha's introductory session to a new member to >> gy, bashing the whole group left n right with words like >> anti-modernist, romantic, green environmental..etc. >> though he confessed to afthab that there is no clear cut rules n >> regulations and he was not ready to substantiate his allegations on >> anivar's request, i didnt know until now that all these words were >> filthy!!! >> >> regards, >> ahmed rafeek j >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > excuse me, but I seem to hve missed something - is this a war on >> credibility >> > between green and grey youth, couched in the languages its couched in? >> > am i missing the trees for the woods? >> > can someone give me some picture please? >> > >> > >> > On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> It will be good if you can point clear examples before this >> branding >> >> >>> effort >> >> >> >> WE ARE ALIVE BECAUSE OF HISTORY >> >> WE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF HISTORY >> >> SO BLAME IT and like T V Chandran, say "ormakalundayirikkanam"!! >> >> >> >> >>> cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should be modernist, >> >> >>> anti-romantic and red (non-green) environmental ? >> >> >> >> there s no specifc rules and regulations, as far as i know >> >> but...... this is a biggggg buuuuut hihi >> >> >> >> >>>it's funny to think that sending >> >> only a particular genre of mails will make you immune to any >> >> criticism. >> >> >> >> it s really funny. but that is how even our green secualrism >> flourishes. >> >> it s soooo funnnyyyyy..... >> >> >> >> sorry for the disurbance (though DD era is almost over) >> >> >> >> >> >> On 6/19/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Ranjith, >> >>> >> >>> I cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should be modernist, >> >>> anti-romantic and red (non-green) environmental ? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, damodar prasad >> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> hi, >> >>>>> anti-modernist = may be most of the discussions in this group are >> >>>>> tinted with postmodern vocabulary. >> >>>>> romantic = wish i cud see a single one in this group. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> hahahah.. I enjoyed.. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> green environmental = not a bad color. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> if anybody make statistics of the mails in this group, dalit/muslim >> >>>>> related mails won't sure be less in volume. and those mails were not >> >>>>> only from 'branded fanatics' (who?). it's funny to think that >> sending >> >>>>> only a particular genre of mails will make you immune to any >> >>>>> criticism. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> regards, >> >>>>> ahmed rajeek j >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ranju radha wrote: >> >>>>> > yea >> >>>>> > approval not required; but in order not to be moderated espesially >> if >> >>>>> > u >> >>>>> > r a Dalit or Muslim, be careful NOT TO BE ASSERTIVE, and always be >> >>>>> > "submissive" and utter "yes yes " to these anti-modernist romantic >> >>>>> > green >> >>>>> > environmental fanatic loooong mails... and if u send long mails on >> >>>>> > Dalit/minority issues, u may be branded "fanatically dalit/muslim" >> >>>>> > thus goes the green experience >> >>>>> > enjoy!! >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> It will be good if you can point clear examples before this branding >> >>>>> effort >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Anivar (as list admin) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 6/19/08, Subid K.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>>> > Moderators, please welcome this young friend and writer Asma >> >>>>> > Siddiquie from >> >>>>> > Pakistan, she would like to be part of Green Youth! >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > thanks. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>>>> > From: Asma Siddiquie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>>> > Date: Jun 18, 2008 10:47 AM >> >>>>> > Subject: RE: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan (about >> >>>>> > plagiarism) >> >>>>> > To: "Subid K. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > I became a member to the group but didnt get the approval. >> >>>>> > Thanks a lot Subid. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > I cant do it on any software. Tried surveymonkey but it says to >> have >> >>>>> > ten >> >>>>> > questions only. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Thanks >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Asma Siddiqui >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > ________________________________ >> >>>>> > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:05:43 -0700 >> >>>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>> > Subject: Fwd: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan (about >> >>>>> > plagiarism) >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > SEE. >> >>>>> > (r u in the group?!) >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>>>> > From: bobinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>>> > Date: Jun 18, 2008 4:54 AM >> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan (about >> >>>>> > plagiarism) >> >>>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > hey, >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > It could have been better if it was done through an online survey >> >>>>> > website. I >> >>>>> > am finding it dificult to fill and send it. If you can put the >> survey >> >>>>> > into >> >>>>> > an online site, I can get to you atleast 5 inputs. (mainly from >> >>>>> > people who >> >>>>> > suffered plagiarism.) I am bored of people stealing my photos and >> >>>>> > right now >> >>>>> > I have written a blog entry. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > you can see the blog entry here >> >>>>> > http://www.freebird.in/wp/?p=130 >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Please let me know if its possible to put the questionire in a >> online >> >>>>> > survey >> >>>>> > site. Else i will send an openoffice document. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Thanks and regards, >> >>>>> > Bobinson >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > This is a mail from my friend Asma Siddiqui from Pakistan. She is >> >>>>> > doing a survey regarding plagiarism and other crimes. It is a >> >>>>> > comparative study of media ethics. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Below is a questionnaire. Please fill it up. It would require ten >> to >> >>>>> > fifteen minutes of your precious time. I am collecting information >> >>>>> > and >> >>>>> > data on this topic to understand the issue and to help victims >> avail >> >>>>> > justice. Your information and views would help curb plagiarism in >> >>>>> > Pakistan and in other countries. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Note: Please highlight the options that you want to mark in red >> text >> >>>>> > colour. Also give all your answers and opinions in red text >> colour. >> >>>>> > After you are done, copy paste it on Microsoft word and kindly >> >>>>> > forward >> >>>>> > me the mail. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Thanks >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Best regards, >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Questionnaire >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Name: >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Institution/organization/profession: >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Email address: >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 1. Is there any course of media ethics and laws taught at >> >>>>> > universities/media institutions in your country? If yes, please >> >>>>> > mention the name of the institution. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Yes >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) No >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 2. What are the illegal practices rampant in your country's >> >>>>> > media >> >>>>> > organizations? You can check more than one option. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Sensationalism >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) Plagiarism >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > c) Wrong reporting >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > d) False news >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > e) Defamation >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > f) Biased news >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > g) Non-payment to writers >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > h) All of the above >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 3. Do you know of any law against plagiarism in your country? >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Yes (Please state the law) >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) No >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 4. Have you ever been a victim of plagiarism? >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Yes >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) No >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 5. Have you ever witnessed an act of plagiarism? >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Yes >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) No >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 6. How can plagiarism be condemned? (you can check more than >> one >> >>>>> > options) >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) By publication of an errata >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) Sacking the person responsible of plagiarism >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > c) Issuance of warning letter >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > d) Penalty on the criminal >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > e) If any other, please describe. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 7. How can plagiarism be prevented? (you can check more than >> one >> >>>>> > options) >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Strict internal policies regarding plagiarism >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) A check on plagiarism by an independent organization >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > c) A strict law enforced against plagiarism >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > d) By imposing a ban on the one who does it >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > e) All of the above >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > f) If any other apart from the above options, please state >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 8. Is there any organization that keeps a check on plagiarism >> >>>>> > and >> >>>>> > other crimes in your country? >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Yes >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) No >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 9. Do you think there is a need for an organization/group/ >> >>>>> > association to keep a check on plagiarism in your country? >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Yes >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) No >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 10. What in your opinion should the organization focus on other >> than >> >>>>> > plagiarism? (you can check more than one options) >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Defamation >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) Non payment to writers >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > c) False news >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > d) If any other, please mention >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > What issues should the organization/group/association address >> apart >> >>>>> > from media crimes? >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) a guide for writers >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) a trainer for young aspiring writers >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > c) Work towards promoting writers and their work >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > d) Improving journalism/media standards in Pakistan >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > e) Work towards protecting writers' rights >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > f) All of the above >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > g) If any other apart from the above, please mention >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 11. Would you like to join a group which is working for the >> >>>>> > implementation of journalistic and media ethics? Give reasons. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > a) Yes >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > b) No >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > 12. What else, in your view, should be done about the illegal >> >>>>> > practices if present in media? Please state your opinion below. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > -- >> >>>>> > >>>>> THANKS & REGARDS >>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > http://www.freewebs.com/subidks/ >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Darkness is equally beautiful. Go beyond languages. Help yourself >> >>>>> > serve you >> >>>>> > better. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Deny food and sex to undeserved. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Listen Your Self. >> >>>>> > ________________________________ >> >>>>> > Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > -- >> >>>>> > >>>>> THANKS & REGARDS >>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > http://www.freewebs.com/subidks/ >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Darkness is equally beautiful. Go beyond languages. Help yourself >> >>>>> > serve you >> >>>>> > better. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Deny food and sex to undeserved. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Listen Your Self. >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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