Hi Asma.

I can imagine you will be laughing out loudly just glancing through the
mails in the thread  "please approve asma". That is green youth.

I am not idealizing. But then the impulsiveness & immediacy in recahing out
to each other is exciting.
But I've not a seen a welcome like this anywhere.

Even the above statement will not go uncontested.

need not wait...fire

damodar


On 6/20/08, Asma Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Anil.
>
> Asma Siddiqui
>
> On 20 Jun, 17:55, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > dear damodar,...
> >
> > read more ยป
> >
> > but is s not me who asked " *is anyone forcefully keeping you here? "*
> > *i think there is no need for me tell u that personal is political*
> > **
> > * i m just replying, not personally attckng any one. *
> > *but what can i do if u feel so....?*
> > **
> > *I never calld anyone "chamelon"*
> > *if that was not a personal atttack, then i would like to say that HITLER
> s
> > much better option dear.......*
> > **
> > *and thanks for informing me my "problem"*
> > *i would definetly consult u in future also ( dont take it otherwise. it
> s
> > friendly comment only)*
> > *no personal issue with u or any other greenwallah here*
> > **
> > *dont wanna make u dig more and waste ur presious time*
> > *so best wishes!!*
> >
> > **
> >
> > On 6/20/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > *CD revoltuon/ padanakouthukam---Night vigial and press conferences- so
> ur
> > > problem lies else where. *
> >
> > > If someone says "its really cruel to be not cruel here"--- for me
> > > it sounded like adolf hitler's most infamous quote: "I do not see why
> man
> > > should not be just as cruel as nature."- *Adolf Hitler*
> > > *I will reflect on my errors. *
> > > **
> > > *Frankly,let me ask: waht pleasuer you derive from such persoanl and
> > > demoralizing attacks. But happy to note that you get such wanton
> pleasures.
> > > *
> > > **
> > > *prasad*
> > > **
> > > **
> > > **
> > > **
> > > **
> >
> > >  On 6/20/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >> the green people should respct a chamelon. it s not an abnormal animal
> > >> dear
> > >> for the those who "refuse to grow" (typical of kerala) shall be proud
> of
> > >> not being a chamelon
> > >> but chamelon survives bz of that
> > >> and it s not just a patanakuatukam
> > >> think beyond CD revolution
> >
> > >> in a forum like this wher one needs to attach disclaimers  always
> > >> otherwise as in night vigil one needs to call press conferences later
> and
> > >> disclaim.....
> >
> > >> *>>>is anyone forcefully keeping you here?*
> >
> > >> dude there are better ways of destruction displayed by fascists
> > >> but they never asked this question (perhaps.... who knows??!!)
> > >> i feel gujarat may be a better place than mallustan....
> > >> Hail Damodar !!!
> >
> > >>  On 6/19/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>  *Temporality/Identity*
> > >>> **
> > >>> members in this group inhabit multiple temporalities( depending on
> their
> > >>> time of entry and 'actual' locations). Somebody at some times
> > >>> demand a linear homogenous (modern) time through historicizing the
> very
> > >>> group.
> >
> > >>> Is it inevitable that we should archive all instantaneous responses?
> Is
> > >>> it ethical?
> >
> > >>> Also, is it ethical to ask for formal explanations? If even a single
> > >>> member has the feeling
> > >>> of being excluded shouldn't others ( moderators included) take that
> > >>> feeling seriously?
> >
> > >>> what is the point in claiming identity for contestaions/
> interventions in
> > >>> the group at different
> > >>> 'times' ?
> >
> > >>>  On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM, damodar prasad <
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>> On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> yes true to the core of Indian nationalism. u can put anything (as
> > >>>>> claimed by )
> > >>>>> very accommodative and democratic
> >
> > >>>>> *that s why even if the child leaves kerala in the 60s or 70s it
> > >>>>> utters "GREATNESS"*
> > >>>>> *loooonggg live...!!*
> >
> > >>>> *This child is like Gunter Grass Tin Drum Child :OSCAR, who refuses
> to
> > >>>> grow. *
> >
> > >>>>> and regarding cruelity, *it s really cruel to be not cruel here!!*
> > >>>>> green or grey, left or right
> > >>>>> we r bound by binaries, though as ahmed claims that WE all discuss
> > >>>>> post-modernism
> >
> > >>>> *very philosophical.pls. parapharse. *
> > >>>> *by the way, is anyone forcefully keeping you here? *
> > >>>> *such violations of rights we wont allow*
> >
> > >>>>>  *dude, i m no modern/progressive don*
> > >>>>> *no such claims. *
> >
> > >>>> *Buddy, attach a disclaimer always *
> >
> > >>>>> *but patcha matramalla niramayullathennu ariyam athramatra*
> >
> > >>>> *renju says he knows not only green but several other colours.
> renju,
> > >>>> have u seen chamelon changing colors?*
> > >>>> **
> > >>>> *prasad *
> >
> > >>>>  best
> >
> > >>>>>   On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >>>>>> From: Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>>>> Date: Jun 19, 2008 9:56 PM
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!
> > >>>>>> To: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >>>>>> thats precisely what i intended pointing out
> > >>>>>> identities are fluid and thats healthy
> > >>>>>> i am not apologetic for where i was born and what my credentials
> are
> >
> > >>>>>>   On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>   moreover,
> >
> > >>>>>>> imagine the kind of cruelty (at the same time appearing as very
> > >>>>>>> modoernist and progressive) , hyocracy slotting child in
> nationalist
> > >>>>>>> category.
> >
> > >>>>>>> Deep inside, "hollow hollow man"..
> >
> > >>>>>>> damodar
> >
> > >>>>>>>   On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>   booby,
> > >>>>>>>> lucky you.. no baggage...how free ur now, just imagine.. really
> > >>>>>>>> lucky
> >
> > >>>>>>>> prasad
> >
> > >>>>>>>>   On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>  what about the child from nowhere? I leftKerala when I was
> > >>>>>>>>> born... and where do I stand... and right now I do not where I
> belong
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>   On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>  On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>> child from Pakistan: Pakistan is great!
> > >>>>>>>>>>> child from India: India is great!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>> child from China: China is great!!!
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>> *child from "communist Kerala": China is great (?!)*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>  Dear Renju,
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> when did u leave Kerala? Late 60s or mid 70s.
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Child from Kerala says (period wise)
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> 1980- 1989 - east germany, poland and soviet union is great
> > >>>>>>>>>> 1990-2000 - (post tianmen) China & cuba is bountiful
> > >>>>>>>>>> 2000-2006- Venezuela is as beautiful as allapuzha
> > >>>>>>>>>> 2006-08- US without hyde act is the promised land
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> We all belive that We r the end of life
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>  so We are GREAT..
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>> great!!!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>> best
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>  On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  sending u a personal mail,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to believe I understand ascriptive politics...
> may
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> be i am wrong
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> but for me green youth seems more democratic than grey youth
> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> terms of the discussion
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> i like warriers challenging my notions, which are of course
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> subjective from where i come from..... and i do not like to
> believe i am
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> right... in the sense of a unversal truth that defines
> hegemony
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for me the personal is always political and have suffered
> thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to that and in a masochistic sense, i enjoy that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>   On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  "CONFESSED" and "ALLEGATIONS"
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> just try to reverse it, then u will get the picture, dear
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ahmed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and no offence intndd....
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let the "piece--ful" co-existnce continue in the group
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let new members join
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let those who r afraid of long mails run away
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let MODERATIONS continue as we all believe in law and order
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> after all who s above the LAW !!
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi bobby,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing much...ranjuradha's introductory session to a new
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> member to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gy, bashing the whole group left n right with words like
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anti-modernist, romantic, green environmental..etc.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> though he confessed to afthab that there is no clear cut
> rules
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> n
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regulations and he was not ready to substantiate his
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> allegations on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anivar's request, i didnt know until now that all these
> words
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filthy!!!
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahmed rafeek j
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bobby Kunhu <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > excuse me, but I seem to hve missed something - is this
> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> war on credibility
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > between green and grey youth, couched in the languages
> its
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> couched in?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > am i missing the trees for the woods?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > can someone give me some picture please?
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> It will be good if you can point clear examples
> before
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this branding
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> effort
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WE ARE ALIVE BECAUSE OF HISTORY
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF HISTORY
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> SO BLAME IT and like T V Chandran, say
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ormakalundayirikkanam"!!
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modernist,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> anti-romantic and red (non-green)  environmental ?
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> there s no specifc rules and regulations, as far as i
> know
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> but...... this is a biggggg- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >
>

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