asma's peom was about ant's productivity. emperors know how to make
the ants proud in their jobs. :(

it is unlikely to vote down the shining 'impulsiveness' in gy as
claimed by damodar prasad.  :)

On 6/21/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fired.....tishoooooommmmmmmmmm....
>
> GREENYOUTH SHINING!!
>
> once such a simlar campaign in India had a long fan followng
> but the people of India voted it down
>
> so instead of this blah blah about "greatness" (read Asma's poem)
> let us come down to earth and do the blah blah blah blah
>
> best
>
>
>
>
> On 6/21/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Asma.
> >
> > I can imagine you will be laughing out loudly just glancing through the
> mails in the thread  "please approve asma". That is green youth.
> >
> > I am not idealizing. But then the impulsiveness & immediacy in recahing
> out to each other is exciting.
> > But I've not a seen a welcome like this anywhere.
> >
> > Even the above statement will not go uncontested.
> >
> > need not wait...fire
> >
> > damodar
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/20/08, Asma Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Anil.
> > >
> > > Asma Siddiqui
> > >
> > > On 20 Jun, 17:55, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > dear damodar,...
> > > >
> > > > read more ยป
> > > >
> > > > but is s not me who asked " *is anyone forcefully keeping you here? "*
> > > > *i think there is no need for me tell u that personal is political*
> > > > **
> > > > * i m just replying, not personally attckng any one. *
> > > > *but what can i do if u feel so....?*
> > > > **
> > > > *I never calld anyone "chamelon"*
> > > > *if that was not a personal atttack, then i would like to say that
> HITLER s
> > > > much better option dear.......*
> > > > **
> > > > *and thanks for informing me my "problem"*
> > > > *i would definetly consult u in future also ( dont take it otherwise.
> it s
> > > > friendly comment only)*
> > > > *no personal issue with u or any other greenwallah here*
> > > > **
> > > > *dont wanna make u dig more and waste ur presious time*
> > > > *so best wishes!!*
> > > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > > On 6/20/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > *CD revoltuon/ padanakouthukam---Night vigial and press conferences-
> so ur
> > > > > problem lies else where. *
> > > >
> > > > > If someone says "its really cruel to be not cruel here"--- for me
> > > > > it sounded like adolf hitler's most infamous quote: "I do not see
> why man
> > > > > should not be just as cruel as nature."- *Adolf Hitler*
> > > > > *I will reflect on my errors. *
> > > > > **
> > > > > *Frankly,let me ask: waht pleasuer you derive from such persoanl and
> > > > > demoralizing attacks. But happy to note that you get such wanton
> pleasures.
> > > > > *
> > > > > **
> > > > > *prasad*
> > > > > **
> > > > > **
> > > > > **
> > > > > **
> > > > > **
> > > >
> > > > >  On 6/20/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> the green people should respct a chamelon. it s not an abnormal
> animal
> > > > >> dear
> > > > >> for the those who "refuse to grow" (typical of kerala) shall be
> proud of
> > > > >> not being a chamelon
> > > > >> but chamelon survives bz of that
> > > > >> and it s not just a patanakuatukam
> > > > >> think beyond CD revolution
> > > >
> > > > >> in a forum like this wher one needs to attach disclaimers  always
> > > > >> otherwise as in night vigil one needs to call press conferences
> later and
> > > > >> disclaim.....
> > > >
> > > > >> *>>>is anyone forcefully keeping you here?*
> > > >
> > > > >> dude there are better ways of destruction displayed by fascists
> > > > >> but they never asked this question (perhaps.... who knows??!!)
> > > > >> i feel gujarat may be a better place than mallustan....
> > > > >> Hail Damodar !!!
> > > >
> > > > >>  On 6/19/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>  *Temporality/Identity*
> > > > >>> **
> > > > >>> members in this group inhabit multiple temporalities( depending on
> their
> > > > >>> time of entry and 'actual' locations). Somebody at some times
> > > > >>> demand a linear homogenous (modern) time through historicizing the
> very
> > > > >>> group.
> > > >
> > > > >>> Is it inevitable that we should archive all instantaneous
> responses? Is
> > > > >>> it ethical?
> > > >
> > > > >>> Also, is it ethical to ask for formal explanations? If even a
> single
> > > > >>> member has the feeling
> > > > >>> of being excluded shouldn't others ( moderators included) take
> that
> > > > >>> feeling seriously?
> > > >
> > > > >>> what is the point in claiming identity for contestaions/
> interventions in
> > > > >>> the group at different
> > > > >>> 'times' ?
> > > >
> > > > >>>  On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM, damodar prasad <
> > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>> On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>> yes true to the core of Indian nationalism. u can put anything
> (as
> > > > >>>>> claimed by )
> > > > >>>>> very accommodative and democratic
> > > >
> > > > >>>>> *that s why even if the child leaves kerala in the 60s or 70s it
> > > > >>>>> utters "GREATNESS"*
> > > > >>>>> *loooonggg live...!!*
> > > >
> > > > >>>> *This child is like Gunter Grass Tin Drum Child :OSCAR, who
> refuses to
> > > > >>>> grow. *
> > > >
> > > > >>>>> and regarding cruelity, *it s really cruel to be not cruel
> here!!*
> > > > >>>>> green or grey, left or right
> > > > >>>>> we r bound by binaries, though as ahmed claims that WE all
> discuss
> > > > >>>>> post-modernism
> > > >
> > > > >>>> *very philosophical.pls. parapharse. *
> > > > >>>> *by the way, is anyone forcefully keeping you here? *
> > > > >>>> *such violations of rights we wont allow*
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>  *dude, i m no modern/progressive don*
> > > > >>>>> *no such claims. *
> > > >
> > > > >>>> *Buddy, attach a disclaimer always *
> > > >
> > > > >>>>> *but patcha matramalla niramayullathennu ariyam athramatra*
> > > >
> > > > >>>> *renju says he knows not only green but several other colours.
> renju,
> > > > >>>> have u seen chamelon changing colors?*
> > > > >>>> **
> > > > >>>> *prasad *
> > > >
> > > > >>>>  best
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>   On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > >>>>>> From: Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >>>>>> Date: Jun 19, 2008 9:56 PM
> > > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!
> > > > >>>>>> To: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>> thats precisely what i intended pointing out
> > > > >>>>>> identities are fluid and thats healthy
> > > > >>>>>> i am not apologetic for where i was born and what my
> credentials are
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>   On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>   moreover,
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>> imagine the kind of cruelty (at the same time appearing as
> very
> > > > >>>>>>> modoernist and progressive) , hyocracy slotting child in
> nationalist
> > > > >>>>>>> category.
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>> Deep inside, "hollow hollow man"..
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>> damodar
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>   On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>   booby,
> > > > >>>>>>>> lucky you.. no baggage...how free ur now, just imagine..
> really
> > > > >>>>>>>> lucky
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>> prasad
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>   On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>  what about the child from nowhere? I leftKerala when I was
> > > > >>>>>>>>> born... and where do I stand... and right now I do not where
> I belong
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>   On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>  On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from Pakistan: Pakistan is great!
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from India: India is great!!
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from China: China is great!!!
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> *child from "communist Kerala": China is great (?!)*
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  Dear Renju,
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> when did u leave Kerala? Late 60s or mid 70s.
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Child from Kerala says (period wise)
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 1980- 1989 - east germany, poland and soviet union is great
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 1990-2000 - (post tianmen) China & cuba is bountiful
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2000-2006- Venezuela is as beautiful as allapuzha
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2006-08- US without hyde act is the promised land
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> We all belive that We r the end of life
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  so We are GREAT..
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> great!!!!
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> best
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>  sending u a personal mail,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to believe I understand ascriptive
> politics... may
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> be i am wrong
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but for me green youth seems more democratic than grey
> youth in
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> terms of the discussion
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> i like warriers challenging my notions, which are of
> course
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> subjective from where i come from..... and i do not like
> to believe i am
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> right... in the sense of a unversal truth that defines
> hegemony
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for me the personal is always political and have suffered
> thanks
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to that and in a masochistic sense, i enjoy that
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  "CONFESSED" and "ALLEGATIONS"
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> just try to reverse it, then u will get the picture,
> dear
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ahmed.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and no offence intndd....
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let the "piece--ful" co-existnce continue in the group
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let new members join
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let those who r afraid of long mails run away
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let MODERATIONS continue as we all believe in law and
> order
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> after all who s above the LAW !!
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi bobby,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing much...ranjuradha's introductory session to a
> new
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> member to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gy, bashing the whole group left n right with words
> like
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anti-modernist, romantic, green environmental..etc.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> though he confessed to afthab that there is no clear
> cut rules
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> n
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regulations and he was not ready to substantiate his
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> allegations on
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anivar's request, i didnt know until now that all these
> words
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filthy!!!
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahmed rafeek j
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bobby Kunhu <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > excuse me, but I seem to hve missed something - is
> this a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> war on credibility
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > between green and grey youth, couched in the
> languages its
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> couched in?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > am i missing the trees for the woods?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > can someone give me some picture please?
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> It will be good if you can point clear examples
> before
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this branding
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> effort
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WE ARE ALIVE BECAUSE OF HISTORY
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF HISTORY
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> SO BLAME IT and like T V Chandran, say
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ormakalundayirikkanam"!!
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should
> be
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modernist,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> anti-romantic and red (non-green)  environmental
> ?
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> there s no specifc rules and regulations, as far as
> i know
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> but...... this is a biggggg- Hide quoted text -
> > > >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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